CD7100 comparison to 880prs - and questions

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

So I recently went from a DEH-P880prs to an Eclipse CD7100. I can tell you now that I do miss a few features that the 880 had that the CD7100 either doesn't or I have yet to tap into.

1) Independant speaker level control - 880 has it, cd7100 doesn't.

2) Independant phase control for each speaker - 880 has, cd7100 doesn't.

3) Full subwoofer control - Level, phase, mono or stereo output - Pio has all CD7100 only has Phase and Mono vs. stereo setting.

4) 15band eq on 880 was very nice, the 11 band PEQ seems to be more customizable and a great feature, I definately prefer the PEQ over the 15-Band with the customizability.

5) 880 only had the 15band, CD7100 has Bass, Mid, Treble controls as well as the PEQ. This is a nice touch.

6) 880 has no built in aux and no built in USB, CD7100 has both but the interface is kind of blah on the USB and I have not yet tried out the AUX though.

7) 880 full subwoofer control - CD7100 Non fade with no level control when in 3-way mode, Non-fade can be adjusted +_6 when in 4sp + subwoofer mode.

8)Area shot feature - this is a pretty neat feature to throw into the mix that Eclipse has. I got it to work the other day and am very impressed with it. It's a good backup feature but along with it I would always keep a couple of backup maps etc. Works well though.

9) 880 comes with a Mic, CD7100 does not, not THAT big of a deal however it is nice to know that you don't have to purchase anything additional in order to run the auto TA's etc.

880's intereface is straight forward and very easy to use. The CD7100 is a bit more complicated and I feel as though I have yet to tap into the full number of features that it has or am just not sure how to use them yet.

Here's the most important part - SQ -

I think there's no question that the CD7100 has better SQ. There are just things I noticed right off the bat without any tuning that give the CD7100 the edge in that regard.

I also find that the Audiocontrol Matrix that I originally purchased to increase the level of the 880's outputs is no longer necessary. The Eclipse has much stronger outputs with no know noise issues like the 880 has.

Those are my impressions so far, maybe more to come if I find more features etc.

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[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

What is the cost difference [authorized]?

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

880 ~$399 vs CD7100 ~$599

The levels of each speaker are adjustable with the CD7100 through the time alignment menu.

 

[onefastsi 10+ year member]

This is good info...I had considered both of these! I was leaning toward the Eclipse however...there are others in the running as well. I do like the voltage of the Eclipse. I'm used to high voltage in my Rockford RFX8140.

I'm also looking at:

Alpine X001

Clarion DRZ9255

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

if the cd7100 is like my old 8455, there should be independent speaker control on the t/a menu //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

I know, I posted that above //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif THANKS!

if the cd7100 is like my old 8455, there should be independent speaker control on the t/a menu //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Here's the most important part - SQ -

I think there's no question that the CD7100 has better SQ. There are just things I noticed right off the bat without any tuning that give the CD7100 the edge in that regard.

Psycho acoustics anyone???//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Whatever you wanna say but I can tell with my own ears what the sound difference is.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Whatever you wanna say but I can tell with my own ears what the sound difference is.

I was in a joking mood when I posted that. I was also very tired from working all night. There is NO doubt in my mind your Eclipse sounds different than the Pioneer. If it sounds BETTER to you then that is all that matters seeing how you're the one who went out and bought it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

It just kind of reminds me of a guy I used to know who went out and bought a $6,000 home stereo system to replace his old one. He kept his same speakers so I already knew what the speakers sounded like with the old cheap system. When he hooked up new pre amp/amp and CD player I definitely noticed a difference, but not so much of an improvement. He however, thought it was a night and day difference. Personally I think he talked himself into thinking that.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

I see what you mean, however there's no question to me that there are little nuances in the music that didn't appear as much as they do now.

I guess that is also subjective in the fact that some people may feel the 880 sounds better or some may feel the opposite.

 

[ToyTundra 10+ year member]

880 ~$399 vs CD7100 ~$599

around here a CD7100 runs $699 retail. I suppose someone could haggle down to $599 though.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

It all depends where you shop some place around me sells the 880prs for $339 so ya //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[XaznKewLguyX 10+ year member]

hey nismo..

the area shot.. you have to have a GPS unit huh?? How much did you get yours for?

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

You don't need the gps unit for area shot.

I don't know the total, I made payments then picked it up, lol.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

Hey man, glad to see you like it!

When you get a chance....cut off the subs, thrown in a 0db track and get close to your tweeters and let me know if you hear anything. With a normal CD, is there any noise floor out of your tweeters at zero? How about as soon as you turn the volume to 2, 4(before the music kicks in..) Can you hear hiiiiiiiiiisssssssss?

Report back to me.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif