can't stand those videos

[Full Tilt 10+ year member]

you're right, but you're telling me you'd drive around with this?

That's my video, bro. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Seriously though, this is pushing it to the extremes. I totally agree with that. I guess there were just some other comments ITT that sounded, well, ridiculous.

 

[RickSteeleEE]

Many (many) years ago, one of the projects we had to complete at installer institute was to build an enclosure for a 3" speaker. At the time it taught me the importance of the enclosure, but after years of reflection I remember that it did indeed play low, but output was lacking. The over all lesson learned was a successful sub install understands that the proper setup utilizes both the sub and the enclosure, in unison, to achieve the desired goal. Arguing which is more important is just mental masturbation.

So you went to an installer institute... And they didn't teach you about blowing speakers? Your signature saying no speaker in the history of speakers has ever been blown with too little power, has to be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. It does not matter how much or how little power you give to a speaker. If the power going to the speaker is clipped, then it's eventually going to blow. Assuming you know what clipping is... Any squaring off or flat sides on the sine wave. So whoever the friend is that told you that, is the dirty liar.

 

[Lowflyin 10+ year member]

So you went to an installer institute... And they didn't teach you about blowing speakers? Your signature saying no speaker in the history of speakers has ever been blown with too little power, has to be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. It does not matter how much or how little power you give to a speaker. If the power going to the speaker is clipped, then it's eventually going to blow. Assuming you know what clipping is... Any squaring off or flat sides on the sine wave. So whoever the friend is that told you that, is the dirty liar.

So you made an account just to post in a 7 month old thread? GTFO ***

 

[bbeljefe]

So you went to an installer institute... And they didn't teach you about blowing speakers? Your signature saying no speaker in the history of speakers has ever been blown with too little power, has to be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. It does not matter how much or how little power you give to a speaker. If the power going to the speaker is clipped, then it's eventually going to blow. Assuming you know what clipping is... Any squaring off or flat sides on the sine wave. So whoever the friend is that told you that, is the dirty liar.

He didn't say no speaker has ever been blown by a clipped signal, he said no speaker has ever been blown by too little power. If a speaker is blown from a low powered, clipped signal, that speaker is not blown by low power, it's blown by clipping.

You are conflating low power with clipping, which is akin to arguing that because a man had a fatal heart attack while driving his car, he was killed by driving.

No... he was killed by a heart attack. That he happened to be driving when the heart attack occured is entirely irrelevant. Likewise, when a signal is clipped, it's power level is wholly irrelevant and thus, not a contributing factor.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Everybody knows that small woofers can't get loud.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

He didn't say no speaker has ever been blown by a clipped signal, he said no speaker has ever been blown by too little power. If a speaker is blown from a low powered, clipped signal, that speaker is not blown by low power, it's blown by clipping.
You are conflating low power with clipping, which is akin to arguing that because a man had a fatal heart attack while driving his car, he was killed by driving.

No... he was killed by a heart attack. That he happened to be driving when the heart attack occured is entirely irrelevant. Likewise, when a signal is clipped, it's power level is wholly irrelevant and thus, not a contributing factor.

Not really irrelevant. You can clip a 100 watt tone all you want, if you sub can handle 1000 watts RMS, it's not going to blow or even get warm. A VERY heavily clipped signal is good for something like 50% more power under the curve if you had a clean signal to compare it to, IDK, I did the math years ago and now I've forgotten. That was comparing a pure square wave, which you can't really create with any amp anyway. I think 30% more power was a more realistic number given how much most amps can even be clipped. Regardless a 2000 watt amp running clean is still more dangerous than a 1000 watt amp clipped, assuming you going to be a retard with both of them and crank them anyways. 2000 clean watts is just more overall power. The issue is many people get a 800 watt am for a 1000 watt speaker and THEN don't worry about clipping, so when that amps putting out the equivalent of 1200 clean watts, things can get hot in a hurry.

Regardless dude who bumped this is wrong, which is sad, 7 month old thread necromancy just to spout nonsense.

 

[supereikenator 10+ year member]

The only video I've liked with small speakers is the 6.5 woofers in a T-Line, it really helped I show the efficiency of a T-Line enclosure. But the videos of 3inch speakers etc, are really annoying.

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

So you went to an installer institute... And they didn't teach you about blowing speakers? Your signature saying no speaker in the history of speakers has ever been blown with too little power, has to be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. It does not matter how much or how little power you give to a speaker. If the power going to the speaker is clipped, then it's eventually going to blow. Assuming you know what clipping is... Any squaring off or flat sides on the sine wave. So whoever the friend is that told you that, is the dirty liar.

I do not even know where to begin.... So I will keep my comments about the ignorance in this post to myself.

 

[jrdnhsnbrg 10+ year member]

Lol, he didn't even say bump.

 

[bbeljefe]

Not really irrelevant. You can clip a 100 watt tone all you want, if you sub can handle 1000 watts RMS, it's not going to blow or even get warm. A VERY heavily clipped signal is good for something like 50% more power under the curve if you had a clean signal to compare it to, IDK, I did the math years ago and now I've forgotten. That was comparing a pure square wave, which you can't really create with any amp anyway. I think 30% more power was a more realistic number given how much most amps can even be clipped. Regardless a 2000 watt amp running clean is still more dangerous than a 1000 watt amp clipped, assuming you going to be a retard with both of them and crank them anyways. 2000 clean watts is just more overall power. The issue is many people get a 800 watt am for a 1000 watt speaker and THEN don't worry about clipping, so when that amps putting out the equivalent of 1200 clean watts, things can get hot in a hurry.
Regardless dude who bumped this is wrong, which is sad, 7 month old thread necromancy just to spout nonsense.

Again, that's irrelevant. The argument was that underpowering speakers could damage them if the signal was clipped. And the truth of the matter is that underpowering speakers does not and, never has blown a speaker. Clipping blows speakers. And note, I didn't say all clipping always blows all speakers every time. That you can clip a low powered signal on a high powered speaker and not blow it has nothing whatever to do with the claim that underpowering can blow speakers. Because it can't. Clipping is not underpowering and underpowering is not clipping. Clipping is clipping and underpowering is underpowering. They are mutually exclusive.

The point of contention is with the argument above. The rest is irrelevant to that argument.

 

[ciaonzo 5,000+ posts]

Some newbsauce ITT.

 

[audio_phill 10+ year member]

I've got some 3 and 4" versions of that same driver... I'mma put them in a 6 cube box and blow his **** outta the water... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nutkick.gif.acc8dcd6c1bd27fba0cbeda5b212085c.gif

 

[BoomBoxStereo 10+ year member]

i clicked this wondering what this thread was about only to realize i started it months ago....