can anyone really justify spending $10K on rainbow refs?

Nope. And that is why I cannot say whether or not it is worth it.
I can tell you my Rainbow Power CS ($1200 MAP on AudioJunkies) were worth every penny I paid for them.
i'm just saying that on a expodential scale that i've heard:

$50 - usually pretty shitty, with amp is still better then coaxials

$100 - better

$250 - comps around this $ range can be pretty daym good

$500 - excellent good but the additional sq starts to deminish

$1000 - once again gain, just alittle bit better, more noticeable then the $500 sets but i bet 99% of the average joes probably won't even notice the difference...

like squeak said, its probably has to do with alot of prestige as well but i'm just amazed at the price...

my point once again is that i don't know about you guys but even if i was rich, i don't think i can justify the small incremental increase in the sound to the big jump in price...

 
anyways, its just like justifying spending 300k + on a ferrari. same idea. if you got the money and want to own something less than 1% of the people in the world have, then go for it.
i understand that...

would i take it if i had all the money in the world? in a heart beat, why not?

ok i'm just going in circles now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

once again i'm just saying that someone could probably get pretty darn close to the sound of those and spend a small fraction of the price...

 
ok i'm just going in circles now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
I was wondering how long it was going to take you to figure that out.

once again i'm just saying that someone could probably get pretty darn close to the sound of those and spend a small fraction of the price...
Don't buy them then.

 
Don't buy them then.
i'm never gonna //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

i really do wonder how many set's they've sold tho...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
i'd love to hear them
i'd love the hear them too...

but unless the sound is so good that it takes my mind to a exotic island with unlimited hot bishes and beer then i'm still not gonna spend $10K for it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
From first hand experience ..... You take a car and gut it completely , install about $7,000 worth of sound deadening / absorbtion, until you can hear your own heartbeat coursing through your ears. Build custom chromoly bracing in strategic places. Run about $20,000 of some of the world's best high-end home audio interconnects and speaker wires. Add about $20,000 in Professional audio processing. Build custom speaker enclosures from concrete , MDF , and exotic composites sandwiched together. Concrete the trunk area and install air suspension to withstand the extra weight. Ect , Ect , Ect .......

YES .... There are people who DO INDEED go this far with their autos. Now ... You don't think there will be a VERY discernable difference in the Rainbow Reference and ANY other sub $2000 set of speakers ?????

Get Real ..... there IS a real reason they cost this much , with the right set-up you CAN hear the differences are HUGE .... , and there IS a market for this expensive of a speaker ...

But no , that target market is NOT posting on ANY forum //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Remember , what seems rediculous to one man , is pocket change for another.

 
I just re-read your thread's original title ..... You used the word " justify " ....

People who can buy the Refs don't have to justify it ......

 
its very simple.

there a very rich poeple out there that but this speakers.

for you $500 is in your limit on a pair of speakers, but for some rich people it maybe $10,000 or more for a pair .

Rainbow sells these speakers at that price because it has people who are welling to spend that kind of money and buy them. $10,000 for these people is not a big deal.

Trust me, there are people who buy them.

 
another thing,

Im nover going to spend $10,000 on speakers, couse i dont have $10,000

but if i had $10,000 **** right i would buy them lol:naughty:

 
From first hand experience ..... You take a car and gut it completely , install about $7,000 worth of sound deadening / absorbtion, until you can hear your own heartbeat coursing through your ears. Build custom chromoly bracing in strategic places. Run about $20,000 of some of the world's best high-end home audio interconnects and speaker wires. Add about $20,000 in Professional audio processing. Build custom speaker enclosures from concrete , MDF , and exotic composites sandwiched together. Concrete the trunk area and install air suspension to withstand the extra weight. Ect , Ect , Ect ....... YES .... There are people who DO INDEED go this far with their autos. Now ... You don't think there will be a VERY discernable difference in the Rainbow Reference and ANY other sub $2000 set of speakers ?????

Get Real ..... there IS a real reason they cost this much , with the right set-up you CAN hear the differences are HUGE .... , and there IS a market for this expensive of a speaker ...

But no , that target market is NOT posting on ANY forum //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Remember , what seems rediculous to one man , is pocket change for another.
Wanna talk about a perfect install, what about home audio? Installs 1000x better than anything in a car due the environment. Martin logan sells 100,000 speakers that have components that can be purchased for MUCH less! All you need is the ability to build a nice cabinet and design crossovers, your not paying for the drivers or tech, it's the name. Most good DIY home audio people will attest to the fact they can get a 10k setup to sound as good or better than a 50k brand name setup, because your paying for the name! Add that to the generally crappy car audio environment (even fully rebuilt dashes, massive deadening, etc, with high end ht gear will only do so much, it's still noting better than an "ok" environment) and yes, it's still very easy to have cheaper components sound better. Especially if they bother to use the passives that come with that 10k comp set!

Lastly, 10k for a fronstage is right on par with some ECA'ers setups, don't know if you frequent there at all, but their is a market on there for speakers like that, I think you had a run in with randy a while back actually.

 
Wanna talk about a perfect install, what about home audio? Installs 1000x better than anything in a car due the environment. Martin logan sells 100,000 speakers that have components that can be purchased for MUCH less! All you need is the ability to build a nice cabinet and design crossovers, your not paying for the drivers or tech, it's the name. Most good DIY home audio people will attest to the fact they can get a 10k setup to sound as good or better than a 50k brand name setup, because your paying for the name! Add that to the generally crappy car audio environment (even fully rebuilt dashes, massive deadening, etc, with high end ht gear will only do so much, it's still noting better than an "ok" environment) and yes, it's still very easy to have cheaper components sound better. Especially if they bother to use the passives that come with that 10k comp set!

Lastly, 10k for a fronstage is right on par with some ECA'ers setups, don't know if you frequent there at all, but their is a market on there for speakers like that, I think you had a run in with randy a while back actually.
I have a room in my home in Montana that is a theater. I designed it myself , back when I owned a high-end audio store. It has $180,000 worth of equipment alone , and that was my " cost " pricing ...... I think I know //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

My point was : Yes , a person CAN justify speakers costing that much, in the right conditions ...

 
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