Bigbangtheory........?

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I see human life as a test of free will, in a sense. Do we ignore the needs of others and focus on our selfish desires? Or do we strive to do what is right and avoid giving in to the temptation of instant gratification/greed/revenge/envy/etc..
I know alot of people argue that you're then just 'holding back and restricting yourself from enjoying things' and shit like that...

But can one not do what is right because of another theory...such as game theory. For instance, a guy in front of me ran out of gas while I was on my way to the dentist. I stopped, gave him a ride to a gas station...took him back to his car, and helped him get on his way.

Why? Well, many reasons. 1) someone I care about may be broke down and if that guy sees them he may recall the time somone helped him. 2) I may do a job interview and he may give me an edge based on my character outside of work.

I believe that pure self interest causes people to act in a manner that benefits society. People who opt for the quick gain are not acting in their best self interest.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

The payoff is what it means to you, in all honesty. If your faith doesn't mean shit to you, and you just pray/go to church/etc because you think you'll go to heaven for it, you may as well not do any of those things.

The faith is based on the payoff.

 

[Customkilla23]

we aren't smarter we are more technologically advanced...

well, we will just act like this was never brought up. Either way, we were not exposed to technology a couple hundred years ago, all of sudden, when einstein came around we now have the power to destroy our own planet in a couple hours.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

We are definitely smarter, look at the atomic bomb. It itself is proof that we have broken new ground and are much smarter, well at least the man who invented were. Our brains are getting smarter, i don't think we just recently advanced technologically in the past 100 years for another reason.

You have no grasp of anything bigger or deeper than the basic picture laid out in front of you.

The fact that we know more has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not we are smarter. It's alot more impressive to invent something from nothing, like we did hundreds and thousands of years ago, than it is to invent something from billions of dollars and hundreds and thousands of people working for you and helping...

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

well, we will just act like this was never brought up. Either way, we were not exposed to technology a couple hundred years ago, all of sudden, when einstein came around we now have the power to destroy our own planet in a couple hours.

You are detrimental to my argument.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You have no grasp of anything bigger or deeper than the basic picture laid out in front of you.
The fact that we know more has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not we are smarter. It's alot more impressive to invent something from nothing, like we did hundreds and thousands of years ago, than it is to invent something from billions of dollars and hundreds and thousands of people working for you and helping...

Are concepts not invented from nothing?

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

well, we will just act like this was never brought up. Either way, we were not exposed to technology a couple hundred years ago, all of sudden, when einstein came around we now have the power to destroy our own planet in a couple hours.

we had technology thousands of years ago..

there was a library in Alexandria, Egypt that had many developing technologies but it was all destroyed in war

 

[Slim_Shady]

How could someone so stupid start such a big arguement? WTF

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

The faith is based on the payoff.

It is not, in my eyes. To many typical 'religious' people, who think going to church every sunday means they will go to heaven/etc...it probably is.

 

[Customkilla23]

The payoff is what it means to you, in all honesty. If your faith doesn't mean shit to you, and you just pray/go to church/etc because you think you'll go to heaven for it, you may as well not do any of those things.

no, you ask god for forgiveness and you shall receive. That is the way i have always seen it. You shouldn't go to hell just because you aren't religous. I am a very good person, but i don't go to church and am not religous. Why would i be rejected to heaven? I don't think it works that way man.

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

take World History I & II

it helps a lot in explaining many things that go on today

 

[vandiar2 10+ year member]

lol wow @ this thread. A bunch of people on a car audio forum who believe in mathematics want to debate about fairy tales? Unbelievable. I am just going to leave this thread alone.

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

How could someone so stupid start such a big arguement? WTF

easy he asked himself a question and wanted to hear answers

 

[Customkilla23]

lol wow @ this thread. A bunch of people on a car audio forum who believe in mathematics want to debate about fairy tales? Unbelievable. I am just going to leave this thread alone.

GTFO, calling this shit fairy tales. You should exit for that one.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

It is not, in my eyes. To many typical 'religious' people, who think going to church every sunday means they will go to heaven/etc...it probably is.

I just say what I believe...acts of self interest benefit society. Deeds based on that motivation alone are of benefit. People become doctors, get the best education so they can become wealthy, in the meantime, they utilize the skills developed out of self-interest to save lives. I really do not believe this is bad thing, unless the motivation is based on the tradeoff of short term gains at the expense of the long term.