Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism

redistribution of wealth...wasn't that the basis behind communism? The tax break makes absolutely no sense. Give the people who already pay little taxes more of their money back and watch them squander it away. A main reason alot of the poor are in that situation.

From a sympathy stand point i have some for victims of circumstance and zero for victims of their own demise...

 
That means those low-life middle classers are unpatriotic because not only do they pay less in taxes, they're getting tax breaks on top of that.

Great job, democrats, on once again villifying the rich.

 
It comes off too much as penalizing the upper crust for their success, because they already don't pay enough of the taxes for this country? I got a great idea, lets penalize them more and make them cover more of the needed tax dollars for people who do not want to pay them.

 
Interesting. You really could have a split opinion on this as you realize that you can make cash from being considered "not rich" but your source of income could greatly be punished for being "higher income".
I think you bring up the main point though. You would benefit but do not need it. Poor/middle class, what you seem to have a problem with being alloted more funds and then using them up and then yelling "the gov't is screwing me". How many people actually paid bills with the stimulus check (redundant question people, how hard would it be for you to say you did pay a bill but how long would it take before you bought something because you had "extra cash)? Very few I'm sure paid bills and didn't buy something soon after.

We as a middle class society complain how the rich are just getting richer while we are getting poorer. Fact is, they are investing and saving and we buy buy buy.
I dont even remember what I did with the stimulus check, I think I used it to pay bills and do maintenance on my car. Probly bought a 1.75 of vodka too haha.

Those kids parents would qualify for local and federal aid to prevent that. They are from families that don't care or have addiction problems (usually). There is not a whole lot the state can do about that other than take the kids away, but that would be a tough case to deal with and cost the state thousands of dollars while it turns our society into the opposite of freedom and liberty.
People have the right to be asshats and thier kids are left holding the bag...fact.

The only solution would be to license people's right to reproduce and that would be looney on the scale of "Ron Paul for president".
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Yup, cant force parents to be good parents. Unless you want to be like Georgia and arrest the parents of truant kids.

You are mistaking my comments as mean or flaming. I realize you agree with me and I was honestly just asking your stance on it long term (which you answered). As your in a position that benefits slightly but could ultimately take away a large source of income, you have an interesting take on it.
Yeah I did mistake them for that. I see now. haha everyone in this thread has an interesting take on it, thats for sure. I was hoping this would be a good discussion, and it is.

word. Heavy consumers.

I'm lucky. I'm lucky I have a father who works his *** off to get my brother and I to a better place. I'm lucky he got the breaks that he did, and things worked out in our/his/my favor to get us where we are today. Just because you try to become something, doesn't mean you will. There are plenty of people who spend their whole lives trying to make something of themselves, some are luckier than others...


the world is a pos...I've seen that since I was like seven...but I've also been in countries like the UAE (dubai), and seen how people actually CAN be kind and help eachother out and make for an overall positive society, even when the people helping are not even that much better off in the first place...

Where do schools get the majority of their funding? Property tax dollars in their district. Yes, TECHNICALLY...you could argue that its the parents' money anyway thats going to taxes and then going back into THEIR schools...but its a government service...it should be equally distributed regardless of its source. thats what private schools are for.
Thats not lucky, thats your father making good decisions for the future of himself and the future of his family. I guess you could define that as luck, but I really dont. Luck would be winning the lottery, you have no hand in that other than buying a ticket. But if you are taking some type of action for change in your life, thats not luck, thats determination.

I feeel the same way about the housing bail out.
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Yes, the difference is that middle class is average, and upper class is getting the crap taxed out of them so they end up average.
Seems logical to me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
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And these people cannot move?
And I am not even going to list your flawed accounting analysis errors.
Word, make enough, then move up, steady steps to the top of the ladder.

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I agree. You should come up to MD and pay our taxes. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif:laugh://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
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It comes off too much as penalizing the upper crust for their success, because they already don't pay enough of the taxes for this country? I got a great idea, lets penalize them more and make them cover more of the needed tax dollars for people who do not want to pay them.
Why work 10, 15, or 20% harder if your just going to get taxed that much more...

 
what would you do if you had zero money, almost zero education?
hmm...oh right just go open a business and become a millionaire...because apparently if you'd quit being so lazy there is countless amounts of money just begging you to work for it...

what do you resort to when you snap back to reality? drug war/gang violence
You go get financial aid and go to freakin school. It's not that hard!

 
If I work 10% harder and get taxed close to 10% more....not worth it to me. Diminishing returns leads me to enjoy more of life and less of work.
I dont think working 10% harder will put you in another tax bracket. However, if you are saying....

I dont know, how bout give me an example.

 
I dont think working 10% harder will put you in another tax bracket. However, if you are saying....

I dont know, how bout give me an example.
I've got none...pulling this outta my ***. Not to this extreme but saying taxing somebody for excelling sucks.

Maybe if I was in that 250k up bracket I would have an example //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 
Originally Posted by Rashaddd what would you do if you had zero money, almost zero education?

hmm...oh right just go open a business and become a millionaire...because apparently if you'd quit being so lazy there is countless amounts of money just begging you to work for it...

Yes, in fact. There is!

I have no higher education.

Barely made it out of high school

Got kicked out of the military for drug use and distribution

Had my own ecomonic challenges.

I started Second Skin with a $700 loan from my dad and have managed to do pretty well for myself.

what do you resort to when you snap back to reality? drug war/gang violence
Ever wonder why so many small business are owned by so called foreigners?

Chinese, Korean, Iranian, Russian...

This is because when they come over to America, they see something in this land that its current citizens and occupants are too blind to see.

Somthing they don't have in their own country and LOVE about this one.

Opportunity..

Our government has passed out so many handouts and pick-up-your-slack programs that it has robbed us of the very thing that makes us a great nation.

When people use economic or social status as an excuse for saying lazy and going nowhere in their life, all they do is promote an agenda of anti American hypocrisy.

 
This shouldn't be a discussion.

It is unfair that the rich get taxed much much more. Obviously.

It shouldn't be that way.

People can get out of being poor easily. If you say otherwise you are either ignorant, or just plain dumb. Probably both. Hell, my Dad had 36 different jobs, and lost everything we had before we "made it." My friend Sam is at college with me and he lived with his Mom in a room in someone else's house because she made less than 20k a year. Yet he's here at MSU, a $20000 a year school, only having to pay $3000 for the entire year here! Not even any student loans.

If your poor. Take the risks necessary to become rich. No one said it's going to be easy. If you don't take risks, you will never make good money. Simple as that.

This is not a debate.

 
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