an APXX will take a 30kw burp will the pioneer?well since we are just talking spl, you have to say the pioneer http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/CarAudioVideo/Subwoofers/SPL/SPL+Champion+Series+Subwoofers+-+More+Information
world record holders 3000 rms i can get 2 for 800 bucks at a local dealer on closeout, suggested retail is 1500 a piece