Beginner needs Guidance

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I'll basically give him mine.. It's just collecting dust...

+1 rep if you do.

 

[Jaredturp 10+ year member]

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[fazio93 10+ year member]

Wow.. terrible advice... Dude just go to walmart and get you an installation kit... you are better off getting a prefab box if you just beating around town.. You can get them at walmart or ebay really cheap. i would get 1 12" sub.. audiobahn makes some good stuff that will get you a good bang for your buck. i think you can get an eternal on ebay for like 120.. Kicker solobaric 12 would be a good bet.. they are upwards of 175 tho.. Kicker is a tried and true brand.. You are going to get solid bass and a solid prosuct. this is how i would go .. You could get a solobaric or a kicker cvx round sub off the internet... i would advise you to get a sub that is NEW.. then find you a good kicker amp on here for cheap... yous hould be able to get all of this for around 350.. .... as far as ohms goes the lower the ohms the more power it will **** and the more beat youw ill get.. for 350 youw ill be pressed to find an amp that will hold 1ohm stable... probably get a 2 ohm, stable amp... then get a 4ohm voice coil sub and bridge the sub down to 2 ohms... you do this by running a speaker wire from red to red...then run another one from black to black... then run one from each color to amp.. simple as that and you are on a solid 2 ohm load which is what i would recommend... if you have any other questions or need help with installation or finding products cheap just PM me and i will help you out

Ok So I've been readiing up on ohms and amps and everything and I'm really starting to understand it all. I actually understand what you're saying with the bridging lol.

So for example you recommend maybe this kicker:

07CVR124 - Kicker 12" 800 Watt 4 Ohm DVC CompVR Subwoofer

It's 12", 4 Ohm, CVR (Dual Voice Coil like you said)

Kicker, being a good brand, and it's really affordable

so seeing how this sub is around 400 watts RMS (200 watts per coil), I would need a two channel amp to bridge with 2 ohms stable. one question though, would the DVC sub still require a 400+ watt amp (200watts for each coil), something like this:

ZX-8100 - Volfenhag 2 Ch. 800 Watt Amplifier

I;m still a little confused about the different wattages at different ohms on the amps

 

[Jaredturp 10+ year member]

You want a mono amp that puts out 400-600 watts RMS @ 2 ohms

Dual 4 ohm gives you 2 or 8 ohms... You want 2 ohms so something like this would work Hifonics Brutus BXi 606 Car Amp - eBay (item 250588724276 end time Mar-07-10 09:58:27 PST)

If you are going to buy one sub... a dual 2 would work better... not on this amp though

 

[fazio93 10+ year member]

You want a mono amp that puts out 400-600 watts RMS @ 2 ohmsDual 4 ohm gives you 2 or 8 ohms... You want 2 ohms so something like this would work Hifonics Brutus BXi 606 Car Amp - eBay (item 250588724276 end time Mar-07-10 09:58:27 PST)

If you are going to buy one sub... a dual 2 would work better... not on this amp though

o ok i get it. so when bridging a DVC sub you just link the the two coils on the sub together and then its only one channel to the amp like outsideshot23 said. i got it now.

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

ya... like snoopdan and i have been saying.. get you a wiring kit from wally world 30 bucks.... you can get prefabbed boxes on ebay... 30 bucks... get an l5 solobraic brandnew 12" for like 125 on ebay.. i have got them for 110... then get you a good 600-800 watt amp on here for 100-150 and you are well under your budget.. you have namebrand gear that should hold up and it will sound good

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

just shoot me a PM on here if you are looking at buying something and i will let ya know if your getting a good deal or not

 

[fazio93 10+ year member]

ya... like snoopdan and i have been saying.. get you a wiring kit from wally world 30 bucks.... you can get prefabbed boxes on ebay... 30 bucks... get an l5 solobraic brandnew 12" for like 125 on ebay.. i have got them for 110... then get you a good 600-800 watt amp on here for 100-150 and you are well under your budget.. you have namebrand gear that should hold up and it will sound good

i have a question. use this amp as an example:

AP700M - Profile 1 Ch 700 Watt AP California Amplifier

its a 700watt amp but the RMS at 2ohms is only 350W. if i was using this sub that i posted a link to earlier (i'm hooked on the kickers now lol)

07CVR124 - Kicker 12" 800 Watt 4 Ohm DVC CompVR Subwoofer

its RMS is around 400watts and i read where it's better to have your amp power a little higher higher than too low so wouldny 350w rms on the amp be too little for a 400w rms sub?

thanks

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

no.. that amp would under power your sub.. it wil only give you 350watts at 2 ohms

 

[fazio93 10+ year member]

k so i correct? i'll need like at least a 1000w amp that has like a 400-500 rms at 2omhs for tht sub right?

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

you can find amps on here very reasonably priced... find one that will do 700-1000 rms @ 2 ohms.. that way you can power the sub plenty and not have to crank the gain up on ur amp to do it... it will do it easily

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

im sorry.. i didnt see the sub you were lookin at... If i were you i would go solobaric beforei go comp.. look up the solobarics... 12" l5.. you will be pleasantly surprised with the sound for the money... one of these will hammer in a civic.. then look for an amp liek i was taking about... unless your hooked on the cvr then i would get 2 of them.. or get 1 cvx.. you can lookt hem up to.. its up to you

 

[thehardknoxlife 10+ year member]

JBL 15" $110

JBL amp$75

Box$41

Headunit $144

 

[fazio93 10+ year member]

im sorry.. i didnt see the sub you were lookin at... If i were you i would go solobaric beforei go comp.. look up the solobarics... 12" l5.. you will be pleasantly surprised with the sound for the money... one of these will hammer in a civic.. then look for an amp liek i was taking about... unless your hooked on the cvr then i would get 2 of them.. or get 1 cvx.. you can lookt hem up to.. its up to you

my friend has a 12 inch solobaric he says its more than enough for his ford expedition lol. but i was reading where square subs have some disadvantages to rounds but they weren't very reliable opinions i guess. that's why i was keeping away from the solobarics but i'll look into them.

just one last questions. what exactly do i look for in a prefabricated box? i read where the box can really make a difference. i see all this talk about shallow mount and ported and stuff. then there are angled boxes and stuff. what do you recommend?

anyway, i'll keep looking around. i learned a lot and now i know what to look for. thanks for all the help guys. =]

 

[Jaredturp 10+ year member]

Shallow mount is a type of subwoofer made for space conscious builds. I would recommend a type R in a box that is 2 cubic feet tuned to 32. Prefabricated boxes are ok for sealed, but if you want a nice ported box you should build your own or have one built for you. The prefabricated ones are usually tuned far too high.