Suicide_Bobb and I were just talking about that sub on his collection thread a few pages back. A friend of mine had the exact same subs, but the 8" model. Same ugly white frame and purple surround....So 1990's they're cool now! I remember laughing my *** off at him when he came to my house with a pair of those needing me to build a box for them. Surprisingly, not bad subs but they can't take much power!