Autotek Mean Machine amps any good?

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

that has to be one of the most ignorant arguments i've heard in a while.
people are supposed to honestly believe you because of that?

You sir fail hard at reading. I did say there are exceptions and even gave an example of such an exception.

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

Then tell that to the companies who have it listed as 4 gauge in the amps specs.


* Type: Mono Block

* 1-Ohm Power Rating 1x2000

* 2-Ohm Power Rating 1x1300

* 4-Ohm Power Rating 1x650

* 1-Channel Mono-Block Operation

* Super D-Class Amplifier Topography

* Ultra-Fi MOSFET Outputs

* Illuminated Hifonics Logo

* PWM MOSFET EXVP (Exponential Vari-Power Supply)

* SPC-Twin Turbo-Torroids with Simpatico Coil Design

* Fully Adjustable Accu Cross Crossovers include:

* - 24 dB Subsonic Filter (Adjusts 15 Hz to 35 Hz)

* Phase Shift Adjustments, (0 to +180-Degrees)

* 24 dB Low-Pass Crossover (Adjusts 35 Hz to 250 Hz)

* Bass Boost: Variable Bass Equalization (+ 10dB @ 45 Hz)

* Remote Bass Control Included

* Balanced Line INputs w Optional Hifonics MM-BLD1

* Gold RCA Line Outputs:

* Permit Amplifier Daisy-Chaining

* (0.2v to 9-volts Signal Level)

* 4-Guage Power Connectors

* Dimensions: 14.97" x 2.52" x 9.45"

http://www.ikesound.com/HiFonics_BXi2010D

lol, ikesound? really.

how about you get your info from the only authorized online dealer

http://onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/p_20600_Hifonics_BXI_2010D.aspx

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

The fact that Maxxonics over rates most of the junk they make. I did say that there are a few that are not over rated. The Crunch GP3000 for example is a beast.
If I was taking personal shots at him I would, but talking about a company as a whole such as Maxxonics is not a personal shot on him. Its a shot on the company who over rates most of the stuff they make.

You sir fail hard at reading. I did say there are exceptions and even gave an example of such an exception.

figured i'd remind you what you said... you said they overrate MOST of their amps with no proof to back it up.... or even a reference to who you saw do these "tests"

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

figured i'd remind you what you said... you said they overrate MOST of their amps with no proof to back it up.... or even a reference to who you saw do these "tests"

Most means anything thats majority. So if they have 100 amps under the Maxxonics brand and 51 are over rated and 49 are not. Most of them are over rated.

Now lets take a look at the Hifonics 1208d, 1608d, or any xx08d series Hifonics amp. The 1200 series has been benched to only do about 8-900RMS. Thats 3-400 less than rated power. The 1608d only has 120a of fusing. Where does it magically produce another 400 watts of power? It doesnt. Its also been benched to do around 1200@1 ohm. And as the previous example I used. The Crunch GP3000d has been benched to do well over rated. Benchtests are all over this site.

 

[onlyinajeep 10+ year member]

my mm4000s have been clamped and i got 4300 watts at 3 ohms with no clip at 15.3 volts any more than 15.3 they will shut off they are about 3 years old still work fine dont know about any other mean machine

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

my mm4000s have been clamped and i got 4300 watts at 3 ohms with no clip at 15.3 volts any more than 15.3 they will shut off they are about 3 years old still work fine dont know about any other mean machine

They arent Maxxonics made. They are good Autotek amps.

 

[Ridinhi 5,000+ posts]

I always heard the MM amps did right around rated some even put out more. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
The ss or sm were the ones that were a bit over rated but still decent on a budget

x 2^^^^^

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

Most means anything thats majority. So if they have 100 amps under the Maxxonics brand and 51 are over rated and 49 are not. Most of them are over rated.
Now lets take a look at the Hifonics 1208d, 1608d, or any xx08d series Hifonics amp. The 1200 series has been benched to only do about 8-900RMS. Thats 3-400 less than rated power. The 1608d only has 120a of fusing. Where does it magically produce another 400 watts of power? It doesnt. Its also been benched to do around 1200@1 ohm. And as the previous example I used. The Crunch GP3000d has been benched to do well over rated. Benchtests are all over this site.

the fusing example is poor at best.

explain why the sundown saz1000d only has 75 amps of fusing? @ 14.4 volts that equals 1080 watts. Why is that? We all know all sundown amps do rated.

because fuses don't blow the second they have that much amperage going through them.. Jake explained it one time but i can't remember exactly how long it takes to blow those fuses @ their rated amperage but it wasn't instantly.. It takes something like 30% more than the fuses rated amperage to blow instantly or something like that.

but with 120 amps of fusing @ 14.4 that equals 1728.. well above the ammount of fusing needed..

I'll have to clamp my bxi2008 and mm100.4 when i get home...

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

They arent Maxxonics made. They are good Autotek amps.

they were made by maxxsonics.

 

[gunz4me2 10+ year member]

Most means anything thats majority. So if they have 100 amps under the Maxxonics brand and 51 are over rated and 49 are not. Most of them are over rated.
Now lets take a look at the Hifonics 1208d, 1608d, or any xx08d series Hifonics amp. The 1200 series has been benched to only do about 8-900RMS. Thats 3-400 less than rated power. The 1608d only has 120a of fusing. Where does it magically produce another 400 watts of power? It doesnt. Its also been benched to do around 1200@1 ohm. And as the previous example I used. The Crunch GP3000d has been benched to do well over rated. Benchtests are all over this site.

Could be worse... The BXi 1606d that I saw bench tested seemed to produce the majority of its 800 watts RMS into a CLIPPED wave form @ 2 ohms. Pretty bad since the rated 1,100 watts RMS @ 2 ohms appeared to be a pipe dream at best.

I was told the xx10d series was MUCH better with regards to clean power output, but I have yet to see one tested. Regardless, when one of my friends says they can only afford a Hifonics monoblock, I always recommend that they buy the next model up. To date, that seems to have worked out well for most of them because they have not complained.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

I'll have to clamp my bxi2008 and mm100.4 when i get home...

Id like to see results as well.

 

[texicanz 10+ year member]

they were made by maxxsonics.

but hes the expert remember,a mister know it all

 

[Max_Power 10+ year member]

Id like to see results as well.

I would think with all your extensive knowledge of how over-rated maxxsonics amps are.... you would already know the answer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[hornedfrog1985 5,000+ posts]

Fuse Opening Time:

A fuse does not blow when the current reaches its rated current. It is designed to pass its rated current without opening. A fuse will take varying times to blow under different conditions. A fuse will pass significantly more than its rated current for a very short time. It may take 10 minutes or more to blow a fuse at 25% over its rated current. The table below is an example of the specifications for a slow blow fuse. You can see that a 20 amp fuse may pass 40 amps of current for as long as 5 minutes before blowing although it probably wouldn't take a full 5 minutes to blow. The times for other fuses will be slightly different.

bcae1.com

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

Fuse Opening Time: A fuse does not blow when the current reaches its rated current. It is designed to pass its rated current without opening. A fuse will take varying times to blow under different conditions. A fuse will pass significantly more than its rated current for a very short time. It may take 10 minutes or more to blow a fuse at 25% over its rated current. The table below is an example of the specifications for a slow blow fuse. You can see that a 20 amp fuse may pass 40 amps of current for as long as 5 minutes before blowing although it probably wouldn't take a full 5 minutes to blow. The times for other fuses will be slightly different.

bcae1.com

thanks, i completely forgot it was on that site as well.

For my clamp testing, I decided to use my pair of mb quart discus 2000's strapped at 1.4 ohms for the Q.
Results as follows:

AC volts: 118

AC amps: 30

Resulting power: 3540 watts

 

Score: 152.1, mainly due to lower voltage and a warm sub.

 

A literal asston of power for this sub.

 

WARNING: I do not recommend feeding more than what is recommended to this sub. I'm just crazy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

Now at this power level, the DD has a hefty advantage over the Q, as it should. I'll try and compare them heads up at 1000 watts, 1500 watts, and 2000 watts to see what the scores are.

here's something tommy just posted... 2 dsc2000's strapped @ 1.4 nominal rising to just a hair under 4 ohms .. rated power would be 2000 watts for the pair strapped @ that reactive load but he managed 3540