Audi TT or Nissan 350z

[visitor]

If you get a 350z, just be sure not to pull a "Hoss".

actually, from knowing the original posters past posts... dont pull a hoss, you are right. instead he needs to hit a train,and die a painful death

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Nissan is making some sick looking cars now. Things to get done if I owned the 350Z....get limo tint all around....get 20s......get a exhaust system.I dont think my 2 15s are gonna fit in the back of the 350z tho.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

20's are for faggots.

 

[Selkies 10+ year member]

Speaking of doing some research, realize that variable geometry turbos are not a new technology. Porsche and Borg Warner came up with a design that allowed them to use them more effectively in gasoline cars by solving heat issues, they did not invent them.

Honda also adapted/invented (not sure) a similar technology for the MDX turbo. I read something about it in SCC or R&T a while ago.

Good info, too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

 

[Selkies 10+ year member]

Between the two, I'd go with a 350Z. I'm a little partial, but cars always have been and always will be a personal choice.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx 10+ year member]

It's Porsche and VAG. The fact that Porsche is a majority shareholder in Volkswagen does not mean that Porsche technology trickles down the food chain in the same manner as the other companies you mentioned.


Porsche engineers. Not Audi engineers.

Speaking of doing some research, realize that variable geometry turbos are not a new technology. Porsche and Borg Warner came up with a design that allowed them to use them more effectively in gasoline cars by solving heat issues, they did not invent them.

Again, speaking of doing some research, if you did a little yourself you would be able to list off innovations Audi came up with (as in Audi, not Porsche), as their resume isn't unimpressive. However, I was referring to their road cars that in my opinion pale in comparision to the competition.

Well the owner/creator of porsche is the ceo or something of VAG which is volkswagen/audi/bugatti/lamborghini/etc. and they own something like 35% stock in VAG. Notice how the TT looks more and more like porsche cars every year... the toureg and the cayanne... coincidence?? Doubtful. And obviously Porsche and Borg Warner came up with VGT's so yes porsche was part of it. They are also the first to implement it into a purchasable vehicle as far as i know(correct me if i'm wrong). Audi has done some interesting stuff as well in the engineering department. They have an "S" button in their RS coupes which shifts from a daily driver to a powerhorse. Only other company to use this tech is BMW with their M series, however I am not sure who came up with the idea or tech first...? Audi also used to build motorcycles in the 40's and 50's known as NSU motorcycles which actually set many world records at the time. You are correct, audi has many achievements on their own... but to call them unimportant or not up to par is an understatement imo. Just my .02 though, guess not everyone agrees, and a companies innovation is basically subjective because one thing may change cars forever for a handful of people and have no effect whatsoever on others...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Honda also adapted/invented (not sure) a similar technology for the MDX turbo. I read something about it in SCC or R&T a while ago.
Good info, too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

Honda used them back in the 80's on the Honda Legend turbo. We never got them in the states, instead we just got the NA versions of the car.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx 10+ year member]

Honda used them back in the 80's on the Honda Legend turbo. We never got them in the states, instead we just got the NA versions of the car.

Interesting... never knew about that. After doing some research it was the 88 Honda Legend and it made around 190hp, but the price premium over the NA legend ultimately meant it floped. Still cool. I also learned that the first supposed production car to use a VGT was the Shelby CSX-VNT and then in 92 Peugeot threw it in one of their cars and the 07 Porsche 911 turbo has a twin turbo inline 6 using bog warners vgt's! Pretty cool stuff.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Interesting... never knew about that. After doing some research it was the 88 Honda Legend and it made around 190hp, but the price premium over the NA legend ultimately meant it floped. Still cool. I also learned that the first supposed production car to use a VGT was the Shelby CSX-VNT and then in 92 Peugeot threw it in one of their cars and the 07 Porsche 911 turbo has a twin turbo inline 6 using bog warners vgt's! Pretty cool stuff.

Yeah, its pretty sad. You can always go to Japan or Australia to get one! lol.

 

[Selkies 10+ year member]

Honda used them back in the 80's on the Honda Legend turbo. We never got them in the states, instead we just got the NA versions of the car.

I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. I'm used to the "turbo for me, na for you" attitude the Japanese had for quite some time. The classic example being the S13...sigh. I really wish they would have brought Silvias to the States.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. I'm used to the "turbo for me, na for you" attitude the Japanese had for quite some time. The classic example being the S13...sigh. I really wish they would have brought Silvias to the States.

Well, reason being that here in america, we're always about bigger displacement with less maintenance, versus a complex turbo motor which takes meticulous care.

 

[Selkies 10+ year member]

Well, reason being that here in america, we're always about bigger displacement with less maintenance, versus a complex turbo motor which takes meticulous care.

True I suppose or just the turn on, turn off, fix when it's broke mentality. Not too many fans of preventative maintenance in this country...

 

[xxBURT0Nxx 10+ year member]

Actually turns out that you would have a hard time getting your hands on any VGT cars. The Honda Legends were never officially produced as production cars, only as experimental units. And the shelbys were on a limited production run of like 500. And now that porsche has them, you could get one, but you probably would have to be pretty wealthy.