Attn: Mma Fans

A) Pavlik lost to one of the best fighers of all timeB) both Klitchko brothers ARE champions...Peter held the WBC belt

C) Pacquiao didn't surrender shit...he is temporarily moving up

stick to MMA and cite your sources
Klitscho was the champion he retired he from boxing for back problems and is making his come back now. Manny did surrender one of his belts because he did not face the mandatory challenger. My source is espn Dan Rafeal. I love boxing and love MMA boxing has to many orgs and is dying though its the truth the Pavlik Hopkins fight did very badly in ppv buys.

 
Klitscho was the champion he retired he from boxing for back problems and is making his come back now. Manny did surrender one of his belts because he did not face the mandatory challenger. My source is espn Dan Rafeal. I love boxing and love MMA boxing has to many orgs and is dying though its the truth the Pavlik Hopkins fight did very badly in ppv buys.
Both Klitchos are champions...like I said...Sam Peter had a belt. Vitali won.

Manny may have surrendered one, but not all

Want to cite ESPN?

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?page=boxing/champions/index

 
You're making yourself look rather foolish here. You were talking about Lesnar boxing, not Tyson fighting mma.
ok, ok.... Lesnar vs. Butterbean at the SAME WEIGHTCLASS... brock would probably lose.. .I'll admit that..

but you people are makin it sound like Brock is a joke because he is fairly new to MMA, and he's a joke because he isnt a great boxer, and someone said that MMA isnt as hard as boxing!!!???!!!???!!!??! and boxing is more of a skill than MMA... thats just a frickin joke man

 
Boxing was cool when Ali/forman foughtWWE was cool when Hogan/ Flair/ sting faught

MMA was cool when shamrock faught.

They come in cycles.
sting still does

flair is FINALLY out

hogan well hes hogal thats all ill say about him

yea i loved seeing the last few years of shamrock getting his ass handed to him every fight

 
sting still doesflair is FINALLY out

hogan well hes hogal thats all ill say about him

yea i loved seeing the last few years of shamrock getting his ass handed to him every fight
You just made my point, sting and flair still fought after they shouldn't have been. Same is true for shamrock. that was during the downfall of the organizations.

and lesner is a joke because he was a WWE fighter and transitioned over with little to no training.

 
ok, ok.... Lesnar vs. Butterbean at the SAME WEIGHTCLASS... brock would probably lose.. .I'll admit that..
but you people are makin it sound like Brock is a joke because he is fairly new to MMA, and he's a joke because he isnt a great boxer, and someone said that MMA isnt as hard as boxing!!!???!!!???!!!??! and boxing is more of a skill than MMA... thats just a frickin joke man
I give Brock all the credit in the world. I don't think he should have had a title shot yet but that's not his fault. He was the better man against Couture without a doubt.

 
Ok there is 4 different champs in one weight class so who is really the champ.
There are 5...with Ring magazine included.

But who cares...is that a valid argument? There are 2000 MMA organizations.

You were wrong...do not question my boxing intelligence.

 
Boxxing is far worse than mma. half the really good fighters never get a chance. Look at the heavy weight division now...if Lennox Lewis wanted to come back he would destroy everyone with a belt.
those heavy weight arent to impressive. but hey boxing HW were bad *** back then

 
You just made my point, sting and flair still fought after they shouldn't have been. Same is true for shamrock. that was during the downfall of the organizations.
and lesner is a joke because he was a WWE fighter and transitioned over with little to no training.
im sure he had more training than we know about.

just the fact that he never had to use any of it before

he also transitioned to NFL and was amazing. its a shame he was cut. id rather have seen him in football instead of WWE or UFC

 
You just made my point, sting and flair still fought after they shouldn't have been. Same is true for shamrock. that was during the downfall of the organizations.
and lesner is a joke because he was a WWE fighter and transitioned over with little to no training.
he has been training since 2006. He is not a better fighter than Couture he was just so much bigger it made all the difference, he was a real wrestler before he went to the wwe also and National champion.

 
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