Are homosexuals a species?

You really are dense aren't you??
Homosexuality helps ensure the continued existence of the race. Overpopulation leads to famine because there isn't enough food, disease because people are living on top of each other. In a world with super wal-marts and air-conditioning, the things you mentioned no longer control population adequately. We have pistols, rifles, bows, shotguns, grenades, bombs, and nukes. Predators aren't really a big concern:rolleyes:.

I have not personally mapped out and translated the entire genetic code. But show me where the straight gene is and I will simply re-label it to show you the gay gene. It's exactly the same thing, just has taken on a different function to ensure the continued survival of our race.

You have to use your brain a little. Yes, reproduction is the main thing that ensures the survival of a species, but when the controls you listed are overcome by technology for the most part, a species no longer has to worry about replacing its members that have been taken by cold, hunger, or predators. Once these boundaries have been overcome overpopulation will eventually become a problem. Homosexuality is simply a more effective method of population control created by nature. Our race will eventually die because we will overrun the world, spreading hunger, disease, and pollution. Had homosexuality not been hindered by religion and law, the population would be much more controlled and the human race would not have turned into the parasite that is currently ******* the world dry. If nature had been allowed to continue unhindered, we wouldn't have to worry about making the planet uninhabitable within the next millenium.

If you can't comprehend the link between evolution, homosexuality, and the survival of the human race, you are blinded either by bias or stupidity.

You are more than welcome to object to homosexuality because of religious or moral reasons. But don't let those objections cloud your reasoning in trying to determine WHY homosexuality exists. Religion and morals are mutually exclusive from reason.

I understand what you are saying (don't agree, but w/e).. But Relating it to evolution is wrong. Or you have to admit, that you are stretching the theory (evolution) REALLY far...

 
Most of the arguements used against gay marriage stem from religious beliefs or moral values, but I have a different take on it...
Most liberals want to allow gay marriage, most liberals believe in evolution and Darwinism.

With that being said, since homosexuals are of course born gay, and it is not a choice, they cannot reproduce and thus are indeed a subspecies useless to the betterment for mankind. Fitness is based on a species ability to survive and reproduce, yet if you placed all the gay ppl an island and all the lesbians on another island so they would be with their kind, they would all die off.

So I would propose that the reason gay marriage should not be allowed is because I believe and stand for the betterment of the human race, and their existence in itself goes against the very foundations of Darwinism.

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Arguments about homosexuality are pointless to be honest..

I don't even know why I got into it..

There is nothing that can be proven or disproven, so it should just be left alone.

Opinions.. they should be kept inside unless you except that others will disagree..

 
I understand what you are saying (don't agree, but w/e).. But Relating it to evolution is wrong. Or you have to admit, that you are stretching the theory (evolution) REALLY far...
Not really. You are working off of a very dated idea of evolution. The traditional controls -- food, shelter, predators -- no longer matter to a significant degree. Those problems are so easily overcome by technlogy that they cease to be a concern.

The only point of evolution is to ensure the survival of a species. This can happen in many ways, whether it's a fish growing legs and coming onto land to avoid predators, a lizard developing a spinal fin to regulate body tempurature, whatever. If reproduction rates are no longer matched by death rates because traditional controlls are overcome, the species must further evolve in order to keep the population at a level that will not spread disease, crowd land, or deplete resources. Because of technological advancements, the world population is increasing by roughly one percent annually. With over 6 billion people in the world, that's 60 million extra people each year. Without new forms of control, we will eventually run out of land and resources. Increasing age at marriage, contraception, and homosexuality are all forms of control and have effectively led to a decrease in the rate of population rise in the last 50 years. Quite simply, we have adapted to our environment in order to ensure the survival of our race. The very definition of evolution. You just have to broaden your perception of what evolution is to see this.

 
Not really. You are working off of a very dated idea of evolution. The traditional controls -- food, shelter, predators -- no longer matter to a significant degree. Those problems are so easily overcome by technlogy that they cease to be a concern.
The only point of evolution is to ensure the survival of a species. This can happen in many ways, whether it's a fish growing legs and coming onto land to avoid predators, a lizard developing a spinal fin to regulate body tempurature, whatever. If reproduction rates are no longer matched by death rates because traditional controlls are overcome, the species must further evolve in order to keep the population at a level that will not spread disease, crowd land, or deplete resources. Because of technological advancements, the world population is increasing by roughly one percent annually. With over 6 billion people in the world, that's 60 million extra people each year. Without new forms of control, we will eventually run out of land and resources. Increasing age at marriage, contraception, and homosexuality are all forms of control and have effectively led to a decrease in the rate of population rise in the last 50 years. Quite simply, we have adapted to our environment in order to ensure the survival of our race. The very definition of evolution. You just have to broaden your perception of what evolution is to see this.
Evolution generally takes a rather long time to develop, how long would you say the world has been overpopulated? Seems like this gay evolutionary gene developed rather quickly.

 
So where to ******'s and people who are born men with the mind of a woman and vice versa fit in?
This is an honest question.
Hermaphrodites (sp?) come from simple deformation. No evolutionary purpose, just a simple defect that occured during the development of the *****. I think Transexuality is simply an imperfect or extreme form of homosexuality. It serves the same purpose, but is an anomally. Something is wired differently. Just oddballs produced by the evolutionary process. Happens all the time

 
Evolution generally takes a rather long time to develop, how long would you say the world has been overpopulated? Seems like this gay evolutionary gene developed rather quickly.
Food, shelter, and safety from predators have all been readily available for centuries, even millenia. Before the Ancient Greeks and Romans. With as many people as there are in the world, several thousand years is not a short amount of time for one aspect of a species to evolve.

 
Arguments about homosexuality are pointless to be honest..
I don't even know why I got into it..

There is nothing that can be proven or disproven, so it should just be left alone.

Opinions.. they should be kept inside unless you except that others will disagree..
Well for proof, why don't dont you start by reading those articles I linked earlier:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...gayanimal.html

http://www.livescience.com/animals/0...l_animals.html

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm

So are you saying that animals choose to be gay?

ANd homosexuality did not just up a appear, it has been around for the longest of time, from ancients Grece and even further back. They used to have a wife then, and a male companion in ancient times, which they were intiment with, because they felt that women were there to harbour there children, and the men were as there equals whom they could love and trust.

 
Are you saying homosexuality is a rather new phenomenon?
No, I'm saying if it is an evolutionary 'mutation' of sorts as a response to overpopulation, I was asking when he thought this 'gene' began to develop/mutate. Hope that makes sense.

I wouldn't consider the days of the Roman Empire to be overpopulated. If homosexuality has been around for ages, I don't see how it would be in response to overpopulation, considering that is a relatively new crisis we are dealing with, considering how expansive human history is.

 
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