BassAddictJ
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i vote arc....just cause it's ARC man...nough said....
Well, lets look at the important differences;
Power; Which option will give you more power ?
Distortion; Both are going to have inaudibly low distortion. So this isn't a consideration.
Noise; From personal experience running a GTO 75.4II in my own car, it has a very low noise floor. I haven't gave it the two IASCA tracks yet...but audibly from the drivers seat w/ music (and in between tracks, at low/no volume, etc) I hear no noise floor. So this isn't really a consideration, IMO.
Frequency response; Any frequency response deviations will be minor at worst. And given you plan to run the H701, you have more than adequate equalizer abilities to adjust the frequency response if need be. Heck, lets face it, you'll be heavily equalizing the response regardless of amplifier....we're talking about putting a system in a car here. So this isn't really a concern.
Cosmetics; Which do you prefer cosmetically ?
Features; Given you are going to be running the H701 (from your previous postings), things like crossover features shouldn't really be important to you. But, does either one possess a feature you need or desire that the other lacks ?
Build Quality; I've only had my GTO a short period of time, but have yet to have any major problems other than the mounting feet are a little flimsy...but I've yet to hear many (or any, really) complaints about GTO failures. And, as we all know, Arc builds rock solid amplifiers. So, while I don't presume there will be any problems with either.....given Arcs slightly higher price point I can only presume build quality would be comparable at worst, or (and maybe more likely) slightly better than the GTO (though like I said....I wouldn't expect any problems from the GTO).
Customer Support; I don't think you'll hear anyone disagree that Arc provides nothing but top notch support. I once e-mailed Arc to find out about direct pricing on some subwoofers mid-day on a Sunday...and not even 2 hours later I had a response. On a Sunday!! I don't hear much mentioned about JBL either way....so I'm presuming there is nothing really displeasing to say about it. Harmon group does have a pretty good representation over on carsound though. So I wouldn't expect any problems with JBL.
So....after all of that....IMO I think, product wise, it really comes down to power, features and cosmetics. Which has the most power. Which has the features you need/desire. And which has the cosmetics you desire.
Then you have the secondary things to consider, such as customer support.
But in the end.....get whichever product makes you happy. If you really want the Arc.....don't short change yourself. By all means, get the Arc.
If you are on a smaller budget, or think your money might be used more effectively in another aspect of your install/stereo, or just plain don't feel like spending the money....there really isn't that much that you would be sacrificing by going with the JBL.
Power; Which option will give you more power ?
Distortion; Both are going to have inaudibly low distortion. So this isn't a consideration.
Noise; From personal experience running a GTO 75.4II in my own car, it has a very low noise floor. I haven't gave it the two IASCA tracks yet...but audibly from the drivers seat w/ music (and in between tracks, at low/no volume, etc) I hear no noise floor. So this isn't really a consideration, IMO.
Frequency response; Any frequency response deviations will be minor at worst. And given you plan to run the H701, you have more than adequate equalizer abilities to adjust the frequency response if need be. Heck, lets face it, you'll be heavily equalizing the response regardless of amplifier....we're talking about putting a system in a car here. So this isn't really a concern.
Cosmetics; Which do you prefer cosmetically ?
Features; Given you are going to be running the H701 (from your previous postings), things like crossover features shouldn't really be important to you. But, does either one possess a feature you need or desire that the other lacks ?
Build Quality; I've only had my GTO a short period of time, but have yet to have any major problems other than the mounting feet are a little flimsy...but I've yet to hear many (or any, really) complaints about GTO failures. And, as we all know, Arc builds rock solid amplifiers. So, while I don't presume there will be any problems with either.....given Arcs slightly higher price point I can only presume build quality would be comparable at worst, or (and maybe more likely) slightly better than the GTO (though like I said....I wouldn't expect any problems from the GTO).
Customer Support; I don't think you'll hear anyone disagree that Arc provides nothing but top notch support. I once e-mailed Arc to find out about direct pricing on some subwoofers mid-day on a Sunday...and not even 2 hours later I had a response. On a Sunday!! I don't hear much mentioned about JBL either way....so I'm presuming there is nothing really displeasing to say about it. Harmon group does have a pretty good representation over on carsound though. So I wouldn't expect any problems with JBL.
So....after all of that....IMO I think, product wise, it really comes down to power, features and cosmetics. Which has the most power. Which has the features you need/desire. And which has the cosmetics you desire.
Then you have the secondary things to consider, such as customer support.
But in the end.....get whichever product makes you happy. If you really want the Arc.....don't short change yourself. By all means, get the Arc.
If you are on a smaller budget, or think your money might be used more effectively in another aspect of your install/stereo, or just plain don't feel like spending the money....there really isn't that much that you would be sacrificing by going with the JBL.
That turned out to be a little longer than I had anticipated....so you had by god better read the whole darned thing and enjoy it !!
Johnny Drama
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If he didnt enjoy that post I sure as hell did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
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that was very informative and i did read the whole **** thing and enjoyed it. I would be using the Power series amp to actually power the comps, so that'd give even a little more power.... as long as I have somebody thinking the JBL lineup wont just flat out ****, that makes me feel better about possibly using them. I havent even hooked the 1201.1 up yet, maybe I should just to see how it'd push my type x
The power series are nice amps. I wouldnt hesitate on it..
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the power series will be used for my component speakers and other speaker in the car, the px300.4, and the gto 1201.1 will be used on the type x
Agreed.
Some of the biggest names in competition use or have used the new Power series amps. If they're good enough for the likes of Steve Head, Gary Biggs, Alma Gates, etc etc....they should certainly suit you well also //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
I would have spent the dough on the Power series, but I just couldn't justify it based on the small (relatively) power gain over the GTO series and enhanced crossover features that I would never use.
But they are certainly nice amplifiers.
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i as well as my pocket book thanks you!
crxsir121
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In my opinion I would go with Arc Audio all the way!!!
1) High Damping factor!!!
2) High Slew rate!!!
3) High S/N ratio!!!
4) Excellent Channel seperation!!!
I love my Arc 4150xxk!!! Has awesome sound quality and great woofer control even with gains set to the minimum setting!!! No distortion even cranked at full volume!!! If you have the extra cash go with Arc Audio.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif
1) High Damping factor!!!
2) High Slew rate!!!
3) High S/N ratio!!!
4) Excellent Channel seperation!!!
I love my Arc 4150xxk!!! Has awesome sound quality and great woofer control even with gains set to the minimum setting!!! No distortion even cranked at full volume!!! If you have the extra cash go with Arc Audio.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif
Johnny Drama
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None of which you will be able to distinguish between the two amps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Next time please dont use so many of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bballrrt06
10+ year member
IT GOES TO ELEVVVVEN
please, in your own justification let us all know why each one of those things make an amp better?
crxsir121
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