u people forgot about my project 8" i did. Kicker L5 8 in a 2.5 abc box, around 800rms at 2ohms daily. Yes it stunk some times from the power it was getting, but it took it. It got as loud as my SE 10" with the same amp and box. im guessing 130-35 compared to my 15" shocker with a 138.6 and 400watts.