anyone affected by ford layoffs?

Don't make a personal statement or response like that when you don't know anything about me... I said it is sad from an individual perspective what turnover does to families. I do work for a large Corporation and in fact the largest corp. by some measurements. In the past I've been laid off but you have to adapt to changes.

You guys just don't get the big picture; at all... The world is no longer the same; it's no longer focused on America and the needs of the middle class. In fact if you read Ford's last statement (10-k I believe it is) the single biggest loss leader is the domestic market. They operate at less than 75% capacity, which by industry standards is severely inefficient. The demand for Ford automobiles has been dropping for 10 straight quarters. What else do you expect them to do?

They need to sell off fixed assets (property, plants, etc...) and shed the variable costs associated with running them (plant workers, payroll, back office support) to become more efficient and flexible with a changing market.

You get angry with Ford for doing this but it's not like they chose to have sales decline, margins fall, etc... It's called economics or market forces if you will. By choosing Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc... over Ford the market is voting with their wallet. Ford's products do not meet the demands of these consumers, thus they must change the structure of the company to meet these standards or they will go out of business.

On the flip side the customers of Ford are just as brutal to them as the company is to the employees that are being let go. Consumers don't show loyalty or buy domestic products to support American companies. No they overwhelmingly support the cheapest/most efficient product that meets their needs, no matter where the manufacturer's corporate HQ is.

I weep for you people who don't get how the world is changing. A little thing like Globalization is going the re-shape the American workforce (for the worse). We no longer will be able to pay some shmuck 80k/year in steelcog Michigan to work on a line making widgets. It can and will be shipped to somewhere else where the same job can be done for a 1/10th of that. Plane and simple that’s what is going to happen to every job that can be moved until the cost of labor equalizes.

 
That's pretty ****ed up man what you said. Maybe you'll think twice about what you said when you get laid off. I've been laid off before and trust me, it's no picnic.
I don't think it was foked up, do you understand the concept of business? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Haven't been following the story though, didnt even know they fired a bunch of people. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 
Don't make a personal statement or response like that when you don't know anything about me... I said it is sad from an individual perspective what turnover does to families. I do work for a large Corporation and in fact the largest corp. by some measurements. In the past I've been laid off but you have to adapt to changes.
You guys just don't get the big picture; at all... The world is no longer the same; it's no longer focused on America and the needs of the middle class. In fact if you read Ford's last statement (10-k I believe it is) the single biggest loss leader is the domestic market. They operate at less than 75% capacity, which by industry standards is severely inefficient. The demand for Ford automobiles has been dropping for 10 straight quarters. What else do you expect them to do?

They need to sell off fixed assets (property, plants, etc...) and shed the variable costs associated with running them (plant workers, payroll, back office support) to become more efficient and flexible with a changing market.

You get angry with Ford for doing this but it's not like they chose to have sales decline, margins fall, etc... It's called economics or market forces if you will. By choosing Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc... over Ford the market is voting with their wallet. Ford's products do not meet the demands of these consumers, thus they must change the structure of the company to meet these standards or they will go out of business.

On the flip side the customers of Ford are just as brutal to them as the company is to the employees that are being let go. Consumers don't show loyalty or buy domestic products to support American companies. No they overwhelmingly support the cheapest/most efficient product that meets their needs, no matter where the manufacturer's corporate HQ is.

I weep for you people who don't get how the world is changing. A little thing like Globalization is going the re-shape the American workforce (for the worse). We no longer will be able to pay some shmuck 80k/year in steelcog Michigan to work on a line making widgets. It can and will be shipped to somewhere else where the same job can be done for a 1/10th of that. Plane and simple that’s what is going to happen to every job that can be moved until the cost of labor equalizes.

just an fyi assembly line workers do not make 80K a year.

 
I don't think it was a smart move...it's going to piss off more americans than anything and will probably keep them from purchasing their cars. 30,000 cars....thats a lot of sales out the window right there, though I'm sure it's only a fraction but you have to think of all the rest of the people who will not buy their cars now because of this...

I don't like Ford mainly because of the Organizations they give money towards...such as The ACLU which I am completely opposite of everything they believe in.

 
On the flip side the customers of Ford are just as brutal to them as the company is to the employees that are being let go. Consumers don't show loyalty or buy domestic products to support American companies. No they overwhelmingly support the cheapest/most efficient product that meets their needs, no matter where the manufacturer's corporate HQ is.

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Well then..uhmm I dunno..stop making shitty products?

 
I was just kinda speaking in general terms. I have an American car too, and I'm sire my next one will be also. Just saying if someone else makes one that's better suited to my needs. that's what I'm going with..

 
my sister's husband is getting laid off. he works out of ford hq in detroit. he's an electrical engineer on the design team. they just bought a new house and have 2 young kids.

they don't matter as long as the shareholders get a few more bucks. how come none of the excutives get cut or loose benifits?

 
everybody says how bad american cars are, but i've owned american cars with 250,000 miles and yet to have any problems with them.
Yea that shit gets on my nerves too. I've even had friends try and steer me towards getting a foreign car

Them: "doood you should get a Honda instead"

Me "Does Honda make a mustang?"

Them "no"

Me "die"

 
they don't matter as long as the shareholders get a few more bucks. how come none of the excutives get cut or loose benifits?
thats why companies like UPS should have never went public with their stock. all stock was employee owned thus they had some control over their own destiny. now on the other hand, alot of employee's retired rich after ups' IPO.

 
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