Anybody following tookie's story?

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

he shot a man in the back, on the ground. And mocked his victims while doing it.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

So what you're saying is that if Charles Manson had an all black jury, he wouldv'e gotten the DP too?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

The interesting part is statistics show that more white people are killed from the death penalty than any other race, yet you still hear claims that it is racism and their trying to get rid of the minorities. I'm white and I could care less if a lot of white men receive the death penalty because bottom line they broke the law. If we wanted to get rid of minorities a better way would be stop all immigration into the country for starters.

Interesting read below:

Equal Opportunity Execution

Abolitionists often cite statistics indicating that capital punishment has been administered in a discriminatory manner, so that the poor, the black, the friendless, etc., have suffered a disproportionate share of executions. Even if true, such discrimination would not be a valid reason for abandoning the death penalty unless it could be shown that it was responsible for the execution of innocent persons (which it has not been, to date). Most attempts to pin the "discrimination" label on capital convictions are similar to one conducted at Stanford University a few years ago, which found that murderers of white people (whether white or black) are more likely to be punished with death than are killers of black people (whether white or black). But the study also concluded that blacks who murdered whites were somewhat less likely to receive death sentences than were whites who killed whites.

Using such data, the ACLU attempted to halt the execution of Chester Lee Wicker in Texas on August 26, 1986. Wicker, who was white, had killed a white person. The ACLU contended that Texas unfairly imposes the death penalty because a white is more likely than a black to be sentenced to death for killing a white. The Supreme Court rejected the argument. On the other hand, the execution of Willie Darden in Florida attracted worldwide pleas for amnesty from sundry abolitionists who, ignoring the Stanford study, claimed that Darden had been "rail-roaded" because he was black and his victim was white.

The most flagrant example of discrimination in the administration of the death penalty does not involve race, income, or social status, but gender. Women commit around 13 percent of the murders in America, yet, from 1930 to June 30, 1990, only 33 of the 3991 executions (less than 1 percent) involved women. Only one of the 134 persons executed since 1976 (through July 18th) has been a woman (Velma Barfield in North Carolina on November 2, 1984). One state governor commuted the death sentence of a woman because "humanity does not apply to women the inexorable law that it does to men."

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

Acid Burn
Those pictures were to show this guy was no saint and he never apologized for the murders. I guess you could argue he's become a very shy guy but now God will be the judge.

i know, but i dont feel it's appropriate to have pictures of corpses on the forum

next time link the pics with sufficient warning of what they are

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

i believe there was concrete proof behind the manson case, not so with this one. atleast thats what i've read.

you do realize that Charles Manson has never killed anyone right?

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

you do realize that Charles Manson has never killed anyone right?

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Two words Peer Pressure

 

[IA2 10+ year member]

I do believe he should still be punished for what he did.
But I dont believe in the Death Penalty.

I believe in the death penalty //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[Heresy 10+ year member]

So what you're saying is that if Charles Manson had an all black jury, he wouldv'e gotten the DP too?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

He actually did get the death penalty, but in 1972 the California Supreme Court in People vs. Anderson declared the death penalty unconstitutional. His sentence was therefore automatically changed to life inprisonment. However, after the court ruling, California changed its constitution to allow the death penalty but couldn't reverse any of the resentencing that happened as a result of the 1972 verdict.

 

[Rmsanger 10+ year member]

I woke up with a smile this morning when I heard Tookie was dead! He can finally end this worthless story and thread...

 

[bigluis 10+ year member]

all that we are doing is an eye for an eye sooner or later well will be blind (hope you guys get it)

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

The deathe penalt is a bit exreme in my view the bible says (paraphrasing) to not kill a man, so that works for the good and bad side, the death penalty is killing its all the same. They should come up wit some more tourturous confinement than jus prison, to really make them think about how presious life is, but our government is crooked anyways, our government sucks especially bush. Hate me if u want to about bush but he has jus ****ed up the UNITED STATES can i get a witness

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

The deathe penalt is a bit exreme in my view the bible says (paraphrasing) to not kill a man, so that works for the good and bad side, the death penalty is killing its all the same. They should come up wit some more tourturous confinement than jus prison, to really make them think about how presious life is, but our government is crooked anyways, our government sucks especially bush. Hate me if u want to about bush but he has jus ****ed up the UNITED STATES can i get a witness

I'm not particularly a fan of the Republican Party either, but please...come up with something halfway intelligent.

Quoting the Bible for justification of public policy is hilarious, shall I post the link to the ownage of Dr. Laura from Bible scripture? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

We have something that forbids "torturous confinement"...called the Bill of Rights.

I agree that the dealth penalty is extreme, the most extreme punishment the State can hand out - I'm not a fan of it because I feel that the legal system isn't absolute enough to ensure that we aren't putting innocent people to death. Too many examples exist of appeals that could have been granted had certain evidence been found in time, the technology wasn't good enough yet, etc, etc...I don't think we'll ever know the number of innocent people that have been executed by the government, but any number is simply too much. The rest of the world has realized putting criminals to death really doesn't deter much crime, but of course, the grand 'ol United States wants to play in a different sandbox.

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

Well in my point of view we shoud live by the bible not constitutional rights cause half of them are twisted anyways. And i was reffering to the Holy Bible at that. Where you think they got most of the laws and thigs from, the bible but they pick and choose what they want instead of taking in the bible fully

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

its about time.....

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Well in my point of view we shoud live by the bible not constitutional rights cause half of them are twisted anyways. And i was reffering to the Holy Bible at that. Where you think they got most of the laws and thigs from, the bible but they pick and choose what they want instead of taking in the bible fully

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Mind telling me what's so twisted about the right to free assembly, right to a fair trial, right to "free" speech, protection against unlawful search and seizure, no cruel and unusual punishment, etc, etc...?

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

Well in my point of view we shoud live by the bible not constitutional rights cause half of them are twisted anyways. And i was reffering to the Holy Bible at that. Where you think they got most of the laws and thigs from, the bible but they pick and choose what they want instead of taking in the bible fully

not every one follows the bible either, its unfair to do justice by the bible in my opinion, by the bible no one should be killed, everyone should be forgiven for there sins right? wrong....