Any Car Salesmen here?

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

Please post tips for buyers. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I realize that most car buyers go in with a combative attitude, and are skeptical and wary of salesmen - making the experience painful for both sides.

What's the best way to avoid the whole scenario and just buy a car for a decent price without having to go through the battle?

Personally, I'd rather the salesman give me the car at the absolute best price - and throw him five hundred bucks as a thanks.

That's better than most commission, right?

Thanks. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

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[hoss 5,000+ posts]

i was hired to be a car salesman once. i never went to the training classes. true story, i kinda wish i had gone. that would be a pretty chill job.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

i was hired to be a car salesman once. i never went to the training classes. true story, i kinda wish i had gone. that would be a pretty chill job.

except it revolves HEAVILY around comission so you will be at the dealership 60 hours a week and 90% of that time you are sitting around wasting time for a customer to stop by

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Tips for buyers?

Yeah, buy used //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

A good friend of mine is a former salesman turned manager...as much as I like him, I don't think I could ever buy something new now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[SteveSkal]

Car salesmen are sleeze balls. of course there are exceptions to every rule but most would kill their own mother for a sale.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Tips for buyers?
Yeah, buy used //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

A good friend of mine is a former salesman turned manager...as much as I like him, I don't think I could ever buy something new now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

the price dave has offered me on some used stuff made me very happy

Ive sold used cars before on the side, for my boss who owned both atv store and car dealership. Its a bit different than new cars so I cant really help ya

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

Ever take your commission under the table? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Raffi 10+ year member]

Get a PAL (pre approved loan) from your bank....then go buy a car.

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

Fortunately, I work for the bank >: )

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

a good tip, dont go in like you own the place, but dont be a pushover either. take your time and dont let them push you around or tempt you. when i was recently car shopping at one dealership i made them an offer, and the manager told me "well thanks for coming by but we cant do that", so i politely told him thanks and i stood up and headed for the door. he screamed at me "hey where are you going???", to which i responded that i was leaving after he thanked me for coming by, and he said he was just kidding. i told him to never kid with me again, and if im serious i expect him to be serious as well (i cussed alot too, i do that alot). be stern with them, but remember their side as well.

a crapton of dealerships are going to a "no haggle" format though, so be prepared for that.

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

Now more than the salesmen about the car....i used to be one for new cars and i cant tell ya how many times i just BSed something i didnt know, it got hilarious at times

 

[SuperchargedRS 10+ year member]

Well well well,

get a loan from the bank first, that takes the payment thing out of the picture.

when a salesman brings you the 4 square (it's the paper that has the price in the top R corner what they are taking your trade for in the left and the down in the left bottom and payemtn in the bottom R) they try to keep you off the price of the car by changing payments (extending a loan to make the payments lower.

Tricks, if your smart youi not buying a new car, when you look for a used car look for the cars on the lot with like a little smiley face sticker or star on them (only a few casr will have them) this tends to mean that the car has been on the lot for a while and the used car manager want to gone, tose cars can be had for a good price.

Secondly DONT BE A D1CK, it wont get anything done, theve seen it before (also the guys that come in like rambo tend to be the ones that get raped on the 4 square).

Now what you want to do is bring a woman with you (like a girlfriend or wife) this way you can be into the car and they can b1tch about the price "well we really cant afford that, we wanted to pay xxx OTD (out the door). THIS works well.

BE nice but stick to your guns.

finally when they ask you to sign the 4 square, likke they say "sign here saying that if I can do this then you will sign and drive the car away" sign it; that piece of paper mean jack chit, but unless you sign the desk guy (the sales dudes boss) wont negotiate because it looks like you are not willing to play ball/ or are a jack.

If you are buying a new car buy it from the "fleet" department, these guys only get paid more for volume (sometimes they make a flat rate per car sold, hence the reason they may have to sell 25 cars to have a good month where as the normal sales guy will sell 9), you can bounce numbers with the fleet guy (or if they have a internet dept. use that) from lot to lot, usualy these fleet/internet guys will drop there pants as they are all about volume). Also saying you are a cosco member sometimes makes them sell you the car for like 250ish over cost (new cars only) and yes they will ask to see the cosco card.

Buy the car at the end of the month, as they have sales competitions which go off cars sold.

uhhhh.. cant think of anything else right now, oh yea, if your really smart you will take the check the bank gives you, get a auto trader and try to get a car that way, those tend to be the best deals, sometimes you can find someone that is still ows money on the car, and you can pick it up CHEAP, best trick is to get a older autotrader (like 3 or 4 weeks old) fin the a little steeply priced cars, and call them as those people tend to wake up when the bill comes in the mail for the next payment yet the phone isnt ringing w/ buyers!...that or make a friend and go to the auction (no this is NOT the public auction)

also the I'll give you 200 bucks under the table thing wont work, the guy at the desk needs to make money too, and the salesman isnt even CLOSE to the finaly word. also dont buy any of that crap in the F&I office, except GAP insurance (if you insurance provider doesnt have it) that stuff is also price negotiable.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

also, avoid carmax. they are ****.

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

Im a car salesman

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

Im a car salesman

good advice.