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[idiot 10+ year member]

I’ll get a post in before the topic is either closed or pruned.

First of all there's the opinion his (and our) actions are illegal, there is no justice system our president, or us as citizens, officially oblidge by that has decided any of this is illegal.

This could be argued using semantics as a shield, however. UN Resolution 1441 never expressly condoned war as an enforcement mechanism, and so the whole of the Security Council did not endorse such an action prior to the conflict. Therefore, the war was a unilateral effort, without the UN’s backing. And so, from the UN’s perspective, it was indeed illegal. This would be an unimportant point, since the UN decries all kinds of global actions that it does not have the jurisdiction to stop, except that Bush clearly invoked Hussein’s past violations of UN resolutions as one of his initial reasons for invasion. The act of justifying the war using an organization that finds the conflict itself illegal was not one of this administration’s strongest arguments.

 

[Steven Kephart 10+ year member]

Does this thread need to be cleaned up orrrrr ......
- Steve

Personally I don't care if you leave it. I just don't like it when people come in here and post propoganda and lies against our President.

Steven Kephart

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[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Personally I don't care if you leave it. I just don't like it when people come in here and post propoganda and lies against our President.
Steven Kephart

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What ????Face it, you care.

P.S

Im on your side if you know what I mean //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Steven Kephart 10+ year member]

What ????Face it, you care.

P.S

Im on your side if you know what I mean //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I meant I don't care if it's left here or not. The topic at hand I greatly care about though, if you couldn't tell.

What do you mean "on my side"? Do you mean your right behind me if you know what I mean? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Sorry, funny but bad Stephen Lynch song. "If I were gay, I would give you my whole, being. But I'm not gay, so quit cupping my ba..er..hand."

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[idiot 10+ year member]

liberal media

Clarification, please. Were you claiming that the whole of the media is slanted far left, or were you contrasting your view of the “liberal media” versus the “conservative media”?

http://www.quinnell.us/politics/media.html

 

[packerfan 10+ year member]

Cliff notes plz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

What do you mean "on my side"? Do you mean your right behind me if you know what I mean? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Steven Kephart

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Yeah,kinda.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Cliff notes plz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Read through the first post, that's all you need to read.

Adire = //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/clap.gif.178cba2c538c68e720c727fcb024b19c.gif

Some people complained about outsourcing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/patriotic.gif.b47a6e0394a3738334c387bdf79409f4.gif

Dan cleared it all up and showed the facts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nerd.gif.c6fa51ddf7ff75f1c0371fbc648f70ae.gif

Steven = //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fart.gif.9285a21c4a53b1a914c9dedbfcf9d894.gif

- Steve

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

The smilies add a nice touch there Steve.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

When used correctly, they make even the best posts bester.

- Steve

 

[Steven Kephart 10+ year member]

Clarification, please. Were you claiming that the whole of the media is slanted far left, or were you contrasting your view of the “liberal media” versus the “conservative media”?
http://www.quinnell.us/politics/media.html

The one's who are spreading the lie that Iraqi's don't want us over there. Now I know you have Dan have gone through many rounds on the whole media bias topic, and I thought Dan provided extensive and conclusive evidence that it does exist. Once he's done with the meeting he's in, I will mention this thread to him. I'm sure he will clear it up for you.

BTW Idiot, we may not agree on political and religious views; but I just wanted to say that I do have a lot of respect for you. I really enjoy reading your debates with Dan as I think you provide very good, well thought out arguments. I'm not saying they are right, but they are well played by you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/toast.gif.bc0657bf54b9ee653b6438524461341e.gif

Steven Kephart

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[Steven Kephart 10+ year member]

Read through the first post, that's all you need to read.
Adire = //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/clap.gif.178cba2c538c68e720c727fcb024b19c.gif

Some people complained about outsourcing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/patriotic.gif.b47a6e0394a3738334c387bdf79409f4.gif

Dan cleared it all up and showed the facts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nerd.gif.c6fa51ddf7ff75f1c0371fbc648f70ae.gif

Steven = //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fart.gif.9285a21c4a53b1a914c9dedbfcf9d894.gif

- Steve

Haha, that was awesome. And sorry about the fart. I didn't know you guys could smell it.

I wish this one were more me: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/ladysman.gif.b3d08666a805020911dd758f82cd9ab0.gif

But I guess this one fits me more: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tomatoface.gif.6507032fedd1868ec0a6a447bb29a18a.gif

Steven Kephart

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[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Jeez Steven, at least warn us next time.

I think this one suits you better://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/spank.gif.0d78e34d42ea8780359e903aeb6697d6.gif

 

[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

I just have to agree that its ever so slightly ironic to watch you debate with "Idiot", regardless of the fodder.

Though, it's good to see an actual debate about a topic, rather then the usual he said / she said.

Carry on:

 

[Dupuis 10+ year member]

Not really. There are thousands upon thousands of Iraqi civilians, as well as Americans, who find it makes a pretty **** good point.
We start with:

ter·ror·ist ( P ) Pronunciation Key (t

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One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism

Which leads us to:

ter·ror·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (t

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Sounds pretty applicable to me...

By far, the dumbest post in this thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/waycrazy.gif.f4a380c3f94043939fd369defd9e6be2.gif