amp's rms, higher or lower than amp?

[badninja3 10+ year member]

should the amp's rms output be higher or lower than the sub's rms?

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[SQBubble 10+ year member]

always higher if u can

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

It really doesnt matter.

But if possible you want to have a little more just incase you decide to upgrade.

Sending 500W to a 600Wrms sub wont do anything...

 

[SAG3 5,000+ posts]

amp's rms, higher or lower than amp?

 

[Vicodin113 10+ year member]

Just send it, its RMS of CLEAN power and it wont matter.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Dirty power= no bueno senior

 

[badninja3 10+ year member]

amp's rms, higher or lower than amp?

haha. sorry. i meant sub

Just send it, its RMS of CLEAN power and it wont matter.

okay.

are there any ill effects of giving a sub more watts than its rated rms?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

are there any ill effects of giving a sub more watts than its rated rms?

Potentially fatal damage; depending on how much over we are talking, the type of the signal (test tone or music), the method used to derive the rated power handling, the installation/enclosure, settings of the system (gain, EQ and such), etc etc.

Keep in mind that the mechanical power handling of the subwoofer is completely installation/box dependent. It is entirely possible to mechanically damage a subwoofer with it's "RMS rated" power. The rated RMS power handling is sometimes, but not always, a thermal power handling limit only. But, in either case....the installation/enclosure will always dictate the mechanical limits of the driver.

Also keep in mind that you can use a larger than necessary amplifier, and not drive the subwoofer with the amplifer's full power output capabilities. So, even if you have a "1000w RMS" amplifier, it does not mean you are actually using the full 1000w of power. Ever heard someone say something to the effect of; "Yeah, that 300w RMS sub handled my 1000w RMS amplifier just fine....I just had the keep the gains really low and turn down the subwoofer level on my deck" ? The sub wasn't handling anywhere near 1kw of power, because it was setup in such a way that the amplifier was not delivering anywhere near 1kw of power.

And that doesn't even begin to take into account the transient, dynamic nature of music and it's affect on the output of an amplifer/power handling of a speaker.

As you can see.....there are far too many variables to state with a complete sense of certainty how much power a given subwoofer will handle in a particular situation.

Though I agree with Supa.....buy a larger than necessary amplifier if upgrading subwoofers is in your future.....you can always limit the amplifier's output via different methods if necessary.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Just send it, its RMS of CLEAN power and it wont matter.

It will matter, if the subwoofer in installed in an enviornment where sending the subwoofer the full rated power handling of the driver would mechanically damage the subwoofer.

That doesn't mean you can't purchase an amplifier that has the same output as the rated power handling of the driver. But, you might not need all of that power.

 

[badninja3 10+ year member]

well, i am planning on buying this/these from this guy:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186129

Pics: http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177054

its a 15" alpine type r. ported box.

those are rated at 750w rms/2000w max.

im not planning on upgrading that sub. lol. so i would want/need an amp that works especially well for that sub/enclosure setup. suggestions?

 

[nveselinovic16v 10+ year member]

GET at least 1000watt rms amp at 12v

type R can **** a lot of power! we powered 2x12"r's 2.2kw a piece for comps of course

 

[badninja3 10+ year member]

daaammmmnnnn!!!!! thats hella watts. but 1000 watts rms? that gon cost me a pretty penny. hmm... i guess i better save up. lol

 

[nveselinovic16v 10+ year member]

really, the new type r plays real hard but need power.

get at least an alpine mrd1001-1005 or mtx 1501/81000

of RF 1001bd

You'll see r's full potential and be satisfied!

 

[JohnnyChuttz 10+ year member]

GET at least 1000watt rms amp at 12v
type R can **** a lot of power! we powered 2x12"r's 2.2kw a piece for comps of course

MMM.... I love my Type-R 15s on my 2500d.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[luvinthebass 5,000+ posts]

Potentially fatal damage; depending on how much over we are talking, the type of the signal (test tone or music), the method used to derive the rated power handling, the installation/enclosure, settings of the system (gain, EQ and such), etc etc.
Keep in mind that the mechanical power handling of the subwoofer is completely installation/box dependent. It is entirely possible to mechanically damage a subwoofer with it's "RMS rated" power. The rated RMS power handling is sometimes, but not always, a thermal power handling limit only. But, in either case....the installation/enclosure will always dictate the mechanical limits of the driver.

Also keep in mind that you can use a larger than necessary amplifier, and not drive the subwoofer with the amplifer's full power output capabilities. So, even if you have a "1000w RMS" amplifier, it does not mean you are actually using the full 1000w of power. Ever heard someone say something to the effect of; "Yeah, that 300w RMS sub handled my 1000w RMS amplifier just fine....I just had the keep the gains really low and turn down the subwoofer level on my deck" ? The sub wasn't handling anywhere near 1kw of power, because it was setup in such a way that the amplifier was not delivering anywhere near 1kw of power.

And that doesn't even begin to take into account the transient, dynamic nature of music and it's affect on the output of an amplifer/power handling of a speaker.

As you can see.....there are far too many variables to state with a complete sense of certainty how much power a given subwoofer will handle in a particular situation.

Though I agree with Supa.....buy a larger than necessary amplifier if upgrading subwoofers is in your future.....you can always limit the amplifier's output via different methods if necessary.

Thank You Squeak for that interesting information bro //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif