airborne cryptologic linguist or applied geophysics

dlab is taken @ meps... id like to learn spanish , but i doubt they would let me... they would only take whats currently necessary which is basically korean, arabic, or whatever...

and i could honiestly care less what people think about me if im an officer or not , thats why officer > enlisted

 
dlab is taken @ meps... id like to learn spanish , but i doubt they would let me... they would only take whats currently necessary which is basically korean, arabic, or whatever...
and i could honiestly care less what people think about me if im an officer or not , thats why officer > enlisted
Oh, I thought you had already taken the DLAB, since you said you were going to do a class IV language. You can learn spanish. Had a friend, was an arabic linguist, the army wouldnt let him reenlist as a spanishlinguist so he left and joined the AIR national guard. Not the same thing but still. So it can happen, never know until you try. He is at goodfellow AFB, doing flight stress training or some shit, talked to him yesterday.

 
dlab is taken @ meps... id like to learn spanish , but i doubt they would let me... they would only take whats currently necessary which is basically korean, arabic, or whatever...
and i could honiestly care less what people think about me if im an officer or not , thats why officer > enlisted
Why on Earth do you think Officer > Enlisted? Did your recruiter tell you this? If his mouth is moving, he is lying. EVERYONE that is in the military right now will tell you this. But you don't have to take my word for it. I wish I knew as much as I did now about the Military and how it works. I would have never joined.

 
Aight--I'm in the AF--just got promoted to E-6 last week and at one point tried to cross train into intel because my second cousin at that point was the commander (full Col) at Goodfellow where the school is, so I know a little. First off, recruiters lie their ***** off. Second if you are in school now and not far from a B.A or B.S--finish your degree and go officer--its much harder once your in to go officer. Third, I have never heard of 3X pay for what your talking about doing. Yes you should receive a nice bonus and on missions maybe tax-free and hazard duty, but thats about it. Make sure you are doing something you want too, not what the recruiter wants, and something that will prepare you for a civilian job sometime. There are many good jobs between the military branches, but many don't amount to shit when your done and back to a civilian.

Dave

 
Why on Earth do you think Officer > Enlisted? Did your recruiter tell you this? If his mouth is moving, he is lying. EVERYONE that is in the military right now will tell you this. But you don't have to take my word for it. I wish I knew as much as I did now about the Military and how it works. I would have never joined.
That may be true, but twisted already has the right attitude, who gives a shit what they think. Hahhaa, all of the officers I was ever working with had that attitude.

Aight--I'm in the AF--just got promoted to E-6 last week and at one point tried to cross train into intel because my second cousin at that point was the commander (full Col) at Goodfellow where the school is, so I know a little. First off, recruiters lie their ***** off. Second if you are in school now and not far from a B.A or B.S--finish your degree and go officer--its much harder once your in to go officer. Third, I have never heard of 3X pay for what your talking about doing. Yes you should receive a nice bonus and on missions maybe tax-free and hazard duty, but thats about it. Make sure you are doing something you want too, not what the recruiter wants, and something that will prepare you for a civilian job sometime. There are many good jobs between the military branches, but many don't amount to shit when your done and back to a civilian.
Dave
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You guys dont get flight pay though? That sucks. Those Airforce people lied to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif

 
Aight--I'm in the AF--just got promoted to E-6 last week and at one point tried to cross train into intel because my second cousin at that point was the commander (full Col) at Goodfellow where the school is, so I know a little. First off, recruiters lie their ***** off. Second if you are in school now and not far from a B.A or B.S--finish your degree and go officer--its much harder once your in to go officer. Third, I have never heard of 3X pay for what your talking about doing. Yes you should receive a nice bonus and on missions maybe tax-free and hazard duty, but thats about it. Make sure you are doing something you want too, not what the recruiter wants, and something that will prepare you for a civilian job sometime. There are many good jobs between the military branches, but many don't amount to shit when your done and back to a civilian.
Dave
Everything he said is exactly true. Don't let the recruiter brib you into something and make it sound something that it's not. And yea, make sure it transfers into a civilian job when you get out, very important. I wen't through Indoc and Pre-Ranger down in Ft. Benning but ended up changing to something that would allow me to get more schooling in and transfer to the civilian world.

 
i went ahead and put the 9S100, Technical Applications Specialist at the top of my list followed by 2w231 , nuclear weapons, then 3e831 , explosive ordiance disposal

kinda scary... me working with special operations stuff or nuclear weapons

 
i went ahead and put the 9S100, Technical Applications Specialist at the top of my list followed by 2w231 , nuclear weapons, then 3e831 , explosive ordiance disposal
kinda scary... me working with special operations stuff or nuclear weapons
2w231 is Missile Maintenance. I work with them everyday. Your either going to be stationed in Montana, North Dakota or Wyoming for your entire enlistment. I hope knew that.

 
better than iraq i suppose
Actually many of people from here have voluntered to go over there to get away from this shithole. But you will never be deployed if you don't volunter, and sometimes then you still won't go. And to get your Secret Clearence, they will do tons of background checks on you and ask your hundreds of questions, examin you and make you take pych tests. They even call your Elementery school teachers and ask them questions. And having that clearence makes a huge difference in everything you do on and off duty.

 
Office = Some Pretty-boy office guy that knows nothing about hands on and gets little respect from enlisted who actually DO the job.
They make some money, yes.. but have to pay back all their loans and don't get BAS or clothing allowence every year. There lots to know about the military that most people don't realise.
what are these loans you speak of? i assume you mean collge? either way if you go military or not you pay back the school waht you owe. and on top of that, if you are anofficer all you have to do is make it to captain, which is a joke, to make as much as an e9, which is **** hard to do.

also how od you figure you dont get bas?

http://www.dod.mil/dfas/militarypay/2006militarypaytables/2007_Web_Pay_Table.pdf

ive been enlisted for only 3.5 yrs but if i had to do it over again would have stayed in the rotc program at my college and gone officer. they ahve way less work to do and get paid way more. on theother side ive been working at min 12 hrs a day at a min 5 days a week and get paid less than someone who works at mc donalds.

to the o.p. good luck onwhatever it is you do. but odnt let bonuses or lies by the recruiter influence you. a recruiter will tell you wathever necessary to get you to enlist. do what it is you want to do and make sure it is something that can xover to the civ world. i work on the osprey and am about to get my a&p license. that equates to about a 30/hr job in the civ world. not a ton but a decent living nonetheless. whereas if i was a grunt where wouldi be?

btw eod istn that great of a job.

 
officer = baller
over 30k starting out , plus your bonus pay + all other bonus's

mmm, 4 15" BTL's with 6 sundowns in a brand new escalade
Must **** to have to go through all that training to have such a goal in putting audio equipment in a expensive *** vechichle. 30'000 dollars isnt all that much. Hell I am at 25,000 and fiance makes over 30,000 and I still have to watch what we do.

 
1>yeah, the recruiters do lie....when I went in the Army, I wanted to be a computer programmer, or at least have something to do with computers. I had a couple of semesters of college in computer science, so I figured I could continue my education in the Army. Well, when I joined, my recruiter said all those jobs were full at the time, so I went 31M-Multichannel Communications Equipment Operator. Fancified radio man. The radios we used had several channels and everything had to be set up so all communications was encrypted. Long story short...I can't use that crap now that I am out in the civilian world. So, don't just go for the jobs that your recruiter suggests, and whatever you do pick, make sure that either you are going to stay in the military the rest of your life, or pick something that can be used once you get out.

 
1>yeah, the recruiters do lie....when I went in the Army, I wanted to be a computer programmer, or at least have something to do with computers. I had a couple of semesters of college in computer science, so I figured I could continue my education in the Army. Well, when I joined, my recruiter said all those jobs were full at the time, so I went 31M-Multichannel Communications Equipment Operator. Fancified radio man. The radios we used had several channels and everything had to be set up so all communications was encrypted. Long story short...I can't use that crap now that I am out in the civilian world. So, don't just go for the jobs that your recruiter suggests, and whatever you do pick, make sure that either you are going to stay in the military the rest of your life, or pick something that can be used once you get out.
Good points! I remember when I used to work for McDonals back in the day, well around 93 to 94, there were a couple people working there fresh out from the Army. I was like, why dont you go and get a good job? Their replys were, I dont have any training other than military and that really isnt helping me much out in the real world.

So I would take his advice and make sure you get in something you can use once you get out into civ life, otherwise, I would make the milatary a long life adventure.

 
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