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Hi all, a few points of clarification...
- The new Brahma actually has a LARGER voice coil, from a surface area standpoint. For power handling, it's not the diameter alone that matters, but the diameter AND the length of the windings. The old Brahma was 3" in diameter, and the windings were 1.1" long, for a total surface area of 10.37 square inches. The new Brahma has a 2.5" diameter voice coil, and the windings are 1.35" long, for a total surface area of 10.6 square inches.

- The new Brahma uses a smaller diameter voice coil because it does help to lower inductance and moving mass, as well as add a few benefits in terms of the flux stability in the gap.

- The power rating was changed from IEC 268-5 (admit it - how many actually knew what that rating was) to reflect a more industry standard "typical recommended power" type rating. The number one request from our dealers - and our tech support team - was to use the power rating as most other companies use it, as a guideline about the power to use with the driver. We got tired of having consumers ask for "which 1600W amp should I use", when the case was that in 99% of all applications 1000W was overkill.

- The pricing has dropped on the 15" Brahmas.

- The Brahmas maintain the same great SQ and SPL capabilities of the previous generations; the new Tumults are even better than the old Tumults. And the old Tumults were a definite step up from the old Brahmas (in fact, Tumult-based systems are the de-facto standard for several high-end organ manufacturers, used in their top of the line organ subwoofers).

- If you want a balls-to-the-wall SPL sub, don't go with the Brahma or Tumult - go with the Tempest or Maelstrom. Those are the SPL units. You want to pound out the power? Get a Maelstrom - a 3" diameter voice coil with a 2.375" long winding gives massive heat dissipation capability (over twice the old or new Brahmas, in terms of coil area).

- We can still recone Mark I and Mark II drivers. That's the beauty of owning your own build house - I can recone old models as long as needed. I don't have to change models every 8 months because the closeout parts I bought aren't available any more, or the build house decided to change their standard stock items.

- Pricing will most likely be the same or lower; we list MSRP, but I'm sure the street price will be less than the MSRP, and probably less than earlier models.

- As far as the Tumult and Brahma being old tech, and not state of the art, I'll withhold judgement until there's some independent information out there showing otherwise. Many people claim their new drivers or technology are better than ours, but considering there aren't any details about either the drivers OR technology, I'd say take it with a huge grain of salt...

Dan Wiggins

Adire Audio®
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Fugyaself,
Yeah, the factory is up and running. We concentrated on a lot of the OEM drivers first, but Adire-branded product is in production now. I had the glue stains on the fingers to prove it...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Peter,

It's also thermal mass of the core, thermal mass of the top plate, total radiating area of the voice coil, material of the former, etc. You want there to be enough thermal mass in the core and top plate to act as a short-term heatsink, to absorb radiated heat. And you want the former made of a thermally emissive product - like aluminum which we use - so that it will enhance the cooling of the voice coil.

Likewise, you want some air to move through the pole, and enough that you maximize the cooling of the voice coil. Beyond a certain point, though, more area doesn't help. And in fact, having too MUCH of a pole vent is highly detrimental from a magnetics standpoint, which can adversely affect power handling.

Regarding power testing: we were rating Brahmas per IEC 268-5. It's an industry standard used in nearly all industries. Except, of course, for car audio. NO ONE in car audio seems to know what that rating/standard really is. So we now have a "car audio style" rating, where Joe Consumer sees the power handling, and assumes that's the amp size you want to have, not what the driver can thermally take if operating in typical conditions.

How many times have you seen threads where someone asks "I'm getting a Brahma, and want to know which 1600W amp to get"? When in fact, the guy was going to run it in a large ported box, and would bottom the driver with just 600W... This new rating eliminates that case, and offers a better guideline along which our dealers can support the customer, and not have to explain for 15 minutes why - in most cases - more than 600-800W of power won't get more output, just a blown speaker.

It's not really lower cost, either - the price difference between a 2.5" and 3" voice coil is literally $0.30 or so. But if you properly optimize the entire system, there are some good things that come from a smaller diameter voice coil! Big voice coils can take a lot of power, sure, but if you can't use that power, or don't need that power, then there's lots of good things that come from smaller voice coils (as long as you keep the entire driver design in focus).

Mass reduction comes from a lighter former - it's a bit shorter, and the total area of the former is reduced, and when you have an aluminum/Kapton/spun lace laminated former, you can end up saving a few grams overall, even though you use more copper.

Warbleed,

All new motors, designed from the ground up, on all products. Likewise with cones, spiders, surrounds, and voice coils. Clean sheets of paper in all parts. New spider profiles on all new custom tooled spiders, for example. All new cones with new profiles and new material formulations; as stiff and as strong as the old Brahma and Tumult cones were, these new ones are even stronger - AND lighter.

This really was a chance to reset ALL expectations, and start everything from the ground up. Not only in terms of the process of assembly (which has been radically reinvented, compared to any other production line I've seen in the world), but all new jigging methods and assembly tools. Even the cone punch and trim-out tools are radically different. Everything was developed to simplify production, and eliminate errors, which means everything is based on radius, rather than height (as how all other production lines run).

We even developed some new glues, and we exclusively use cyanoacrylates. Amazingly expensive (runs about $300/pound), but extremely resilient and strong. Simply the best glues you can use, bar none. The glue for the former joints (spider/cone/former connections) is a new high temperature blend that maintains over 3300 PSI of bonding strength at a temperature of 300 deg C. To rip a spider from the former takes around 400 pounds of force - it just doesn't happen unless something goes REALLY wrong in operation.

Likewise the glue to hold the plate laminations and motor together. A drop of a Koda motor from 8 feet on to hard concrete shattered the aluminum basket, and cracked the magnet, but the motor stayed glued together, and nothing shifted.

A few select people who are familiar with the process of speaker production have looked at the line and been really surprised. But it definitely works, is highly flexible, and can produce high volumes (with all 9 stations staffed, we can produce over 12 drivers a minute). Yet still can affordably do runs as small as 20. We can actually have 4 different models moving through the line simultaneously, without a hitch.

The magnetizer is also a full-custom designed and built unit. Capable of running at up to 2 kV, with 192,000 uF of capacitance. 100,000A capacity. With the unit set to 1 kV, it shot a 10 pound 220mm diameter magnet roughly 25 feet in the air. It's wicked, but can charge any magnet material out there. And the charging coil is big enough I can charge multiple drivers in a single shot. With a pair of 3 phase 440V lines feeding it, it reaches a full 2 kV charge in 7 seconds, and since the charging coil is air-cooled, it can maintain that kind of cyclic rate all day, every day.

Dan Wiggins

Adire Audio®
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Wow, read the entire thing. VERY informative...looks like I'll be calling Adire Audio in the near future...got some questions. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

NG

 
cobra, I don't know if he meant they (especially the Tempest) will be so much of an SPL beast as they will be suitable SPL contenders. I read on SIN a while ago, when the new pricing came out something that made me feel this way, but I can't remember details. All I know is that even the old tempests would have been suitable for SPL comps simply because tey had an assload Vas and thier efficiency was great. Im just not picturing some size motor that resembles a Brahma/XXX on the Tempest.

I could be entirely wrong though, who knows.

 
I had one a while ago and itwould pound off of only 400wrms. Was a really nice sub, sold it to Req for something like $100. Too bad it got ****ed when he sold it and shipped it.

 
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