Additional 30,000 additional troops might be called to Iraq....

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

One of the top Generals will be requesting additional troops come mid-September. Knowing our wise president, he will gladly send more. Read-on....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20449568/

WASHINGTON - GOP Sen. John Warner, who wants U.S. troops to start coming home from Iraq by Christmas, said Sunday he may support Democratic legislation ordering withdrawals if President Bush refuses to set a return timetable soon.

"I'm going to have to evaluate it," Warner said. "I don't say that as a threat. I say that as an option we'll all have to consider."

Warner, a former Navy Secretary and one-time chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, is seen as someone who could influence the debate among senators who have grown increasingly uneasy about the unpopular war.

Warner's suggestion last week about bringing back some troops put him at odds with Bush, who has insisted that conditions on the ground should dictate any such decisions. Warner long has opposed legislation pushing for timetables.

The Virginia Republican said Sunday it would be best for the president, not Congress, to make a decision on withdrawals and that overriding a presidential veto would be difficult. But Warner made clear his view that people are losing patience with the administration's strategy in Iraq, a significant change is needed in September and troop withdrawals were the best way to accomplish that.

"That's precisely what I said to the president: 'You can initiate a first withdrawal. You pick the number. It will send a signal to the Iraqi government that matches your words,'" Warner said. "His words being, 'We're not going to be there forever.'"

"The president has got to put teeth in the comments that we are not there forever," he added.

Showdown in the White House

The political wrangling comes as the White House and Congress are headed toward a showdown on the Iraq war. In mid-September, Gen. David Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker plan to give their assessment of Bush's decision this year to send 30,000 additional troops to Iraq.

"We have to show our resolve in the face of the Iraqi government inaction," Warner said. "I'm looking for in that message on the 15th what he's going to do to get the (Iraqi) government jump-started on his commitment to troops."

Over the weekend, beleaguered Iraq prime minister Nouri al-Maliki lashed out at U.S. critics who have called for his ouster and pushed for withdrawals. Al-Maliki cited in particular Democratic senators Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin, who the prime minister said "consider Iraq as if it were one of their villages."

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he was troubled with the slow pace of al-Maliki's government in fostering political reconciliation but cautioned that U.S. efforts to push too hard could backfire.

"Senator Warner is a great patriot and a student of history, and he's clearly sending a signal to the Iraqis that our patience is not unlimited, and that's correct," said Cornyn, a fellow member of Senate Armed Services Committee. "But I don't think it's in our best interest to put so much pressure on the new Iraqi government that it absolutely collapses."

"We don't want to allow that to happen, because it would make us less safe here at home," he said.

But former Democratic Sen. John Edwards, a 2008 presidential candidate, said he believed even stronger pressure was needed to reduce bloodshed and force political compromise in Iraq. Every defense funding bill Congress sends to Bush should set a timetable for Iraq, and Democrats should be willing to filibuster if necessary to force action, he said.

"I think that Maliki should quit worrying about Democrats and the presidential campaign in America and start worrying about what he needs to do in his own country," Edwards said.

Warner appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press," Cornyn spoke on ABC's "This Week," and Edwards was on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

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[Army-Killa]

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[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

I am really getting sick to my stomach with the whole Bush administration. After re-reading that article, I see that BUSH is actually the one that's wanting to send 30,000 more troops, our top General and U.S. Ambassador are only giving their assessment of his plan. I have been to the desert on 4 different occassions, my wife on two, and this bullshit war needs to come to an end. You would be amazed @ how the people over there don't even want us there, or our help.

 

[zthumper 10+ year member]

he's almost outa there......

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

he's almost outa there......

Not soon enough...

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

I just noticed my F'd^ title.......I was sooo angry, sentence fragment got the best of me.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

:sigh:

They're fighting a war on someone else's terms. They pick and choose where and when to attack and who to attack and disappear after the attack. Just like Vietnam, they wont see any end to this and when they withdraw the same people are going to attack and take over the Iraqi that are currently in power who are even less capable to deal with this type of warfare then the US. Either way, this isnt going to turn out well.

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/pissed.gif.9f665f96bc89e98e708dabd4580bb591.gif Our kids are going to pay for this.....

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/pissed.gif.9f665f96bc89e98e708dabd4580bb591.gif Our kids are going to pay for this.....

possibly even your grandchildren.

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

is this the straw thats gonna break the camels back?

or are we going to wait for the draft to be reinstated?

 

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

why were we even there in the first place

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

why were we even there in the first place

Because saddam had WMDs... they knew they had them, they were in the north sound east west..

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

the Constitution was written to protect us from being taken advantage of. Violation of the Constitution has its winners and losers. see hitmans sig.

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

This is gonna go on and on and on...........

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

dont u jus love this country. :sarcastic: