5 cubes GROSS for 2 12" HDC3s

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

I'm gonna be ordering this setup either tonight or tomorrow so let me know now before i make a mistake on this-

I have 5 cubes gross for 2 of these subs.

After sub and port displacement, i have 3.75 cubes NET

Is this gonna be enough for these subs?

I was talkin to DJ about it earlier on the phone and he was kinda iffy about it but the kicker is that i am running 2 AQ2200ds to this pair so I do not know if it's advisable to keep them in a box like this due to me giving them this extra power...

What you guys think?

Think i should do the 2 12s or something else like 3 RE SX 10s in 3.75 cubes NET? Can they handle 1,500w per? or are these 2 12s gonna be potentially louder?

Tuning for the AQ 12s is gonna be at 40hz, if i went with REs subs it would be at 35hz.

I was thinkin about 3 ICONs but i have too much power

I was also thinkin about Fi BLs but i think RE SXs may be louder.

Let me know guys, Thanks.

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[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

is 3.75 all you have? Whats your vehicle?

i have mine in 5.5 cubes NET and they sound pretty good. I have about 5kw on tap and its a little more than they like in that box.. But running them in a smaller box should help their power handling.

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

i have already cut all the pieces for the box.

It's for a 2007 scion tc.

I had to leave room for 2 AQ2200ds, 1 sundown 100.4 and 3 Kinetik HC1400s, extra internal sirens and enough air room for the side firing port to travel back which is an extra 4" of width from box to wall.

And..., hehe, i wanted to leave enough "see-through room" so i can still use my back window.

It's 5 cubes gross exactly. Port takes up 0.9 cubes. 2 subs= 0.4 cubes displaced.

I know it'll get loud 40hz and up for sure, but i am just afraid a box like that.... not saying it will, but am afraid anything let's say 35hz and under is gonna be almost completely silent.... Any thoughts on that?

 

[profundus-sanus 10+ year member]

i'm not really sure. I know mine gets down fairly decent. I'm tuned to 38.. it starts to noticably roll off in the low 30's. They like bigger box's to get low, but your smaller cabin will help on getting down too.

I drive an explorer, so i have a good bit more air space to fill than you.

You should be fine tuned to 40.

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

well, with me side firing this port, crossing my fingers that acoustic length continues as it exists the port more than normal...

Reason why i say that is because every direction but up is walled off around the port exit.

The only direction air can go is toward me and up only an inch...

Hopefully the little 4" wide tunnel that's left beside the box adds to the acoustical length a little to get the lows back in action.

 

[Harleyfx69 10+ year member]

the website recomends 2.5 cube feet PER 12 inch hd3 including displacement of subs ,

SO double that for 2, and GROSS you need 5 cubes

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

yea i know, sounds simple dont it?

That's why i thought it was easy.

The site says there's no need to subtract sub or port volume...

that means that 2.5 per 12 is GROSS so having 5 internal GROSS should be perfect!

But when i was talkin on the phone with DJ, i could have swore he said i need 4.6cubes after sub displacement then i need to add port in addition to that.

I may be wrong but i know what u r saying, the site makes it easy.

Everbody elses 12s need 2-2.5 net per sub, that's what makes me worry bout me only given them 1.85 per

 

[bad @SS chevy 10+ year member]

You need a 5 cube box, tuned to 40hz, 90-100 sq inches of port.... 5 cubes after port and sub displacement.

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

well, if that's the case, then this setup won't work obviously.

So new route-

got bout 36hrs to make decision-

3 10" Fi BLs with cooling or 3 10" RE SXs... off of 4,400w of AQ power.

 

[bad @SS chevy 10+ year member]

You can definanlty make 2 12''s work in your car though.. My current box is only 4.0 cubes tuned to 35hz, and it rocks everyones socks off. 2000 rms going to each w00fer youll be fine...

 

[king ranch 5,000+ posts]

might want to consider aero's

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

i dont understand?

If i need more volume, how would my car help with that?

I know i should run subs that fit rather than forcing something that may not work.

I want to make sure that whatever i go with is the best choice of course.

3 10s have full output potential in this type of box.... are you guys still considering 2 of these 12s will outperform 3 of either of those 10s in the 1.3cuft per....

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

i've already thought about aeros and just regular pvc, don't have room for pvc and would need 2 6" aeros but if the outer flange diameter is larger than 8" which i'm sure it is, then it wont fit either.

 

[yunvme666 10+ year member]

aeros? theyre like 8.25or somethin, but man you can cut back on port space with an aero...... i was almost 11-12 gross, b4 i decided to use aeros now im down to a lil less then 8.....its worth a try.......

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

i would need 2 of them 21.25" long

I just did the math, it's only gonna save me 0.25cuft...

Not that big of a difference.

Honestly, i think i may be better off with 3 10s.. what u guys think?

I would go with HDC3s but weight is also an issue.

wanna stay around 100lbs

So... Fi BLs or RE SXs...?

And... i take it the 2 12 HDC3 idea is history correct?