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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

ffs 2010 camaro has the exact same brakes, rotors, and SINGLE piston calipers as my friend 1996 honda accord.

And you know this how?

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I'm a Ford guy, but um neither the Camaro or Challenger will be around much longer. Again. So this argument will be a moot point. And guys, there is more to consider than just the V6 having 300hp; it is lacking on torque and makes its power higher up in the RPM range, not to mention the weight. I've heard the V6 in person. It sounds like a ******** engine. And the windows on the Camaro are TINY. Actually though, the interior is nicer in person than the pics suggest, but I agree the radio thing is killer. It is basically persuading my buddy to get a 2011 Mustang GT instead...

No biased post here at all. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Also to anybody else who thinks the Challenger and Camaro look a like. Then it is obvious, you haven't seen one in real life next to eachother. I have and the differences are more than mild. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[LaserRed38 10+ year member]

I've seen both. They look similar. Same with the Mustang. But like it has been said, they all looked similar in the 60s too so big deal. But, the Camaro and Challenger do just look bloated and overweight, and honestly so do the 2005 and up Mustangs, just not as much so. They are just big cars, and they don't really appeal to me, and I actually like American cars lol. I like everything though, imports, domestics, trucks, cars whatever. I think the new Camaro is an interesting design, but it isn't for me. It will be a head turner for a year or so because there hasn't been a new Camaro in 6 years. But after that, and GM restructures, I would bet we don't see another generation, or at least for a long time.

And yeah my post was a little biased obviously but I stated that in the first sentence. I even defended the Camaro's interior, which has long been the biggest gripe about the whole car. In person, even in base form it doesn't look that bad, except for the huge blindspots and sitting in the bathtub feeling from the tiny windows. The 2010 Mustang interior just kills the Camaro's though. No contest. I just wish I could get that interior into my SN95. :-/

 

[LaserRed38 10+ year member]

And Audioholic is right. Yeah so what, the cars might now handle that well stock. It's called modding? Some of you change your system every month (I'm almost to that point), what prevents you from bolting up a set of coilovers, new sway bars and STBs? Pretty much ANY car new or old can be made to handle well. That is a weak argument...

 

[John3000 10+ year member]

no but you said American cars don't handle, and i mentioned the ZO6 has a lot of high dollar European cars licked in both handling and speed and the new ZR1 is even better beating the Nissan GTR.

I thought they made the ZR1 b/c the GTR was handing the Z06 its ***?

 

[John3000 10+ year member]

I would like to see the engine bay in the v6 model in person, I foresee turbos for that car down the road.

 

[sexiewasd 10+ year member]

I'm not really a big fan of mustangs or camaros of almost any gen, but I do hate seeing their names dragged threw the mud with these abominations. They are not muscle cars, they are bloated penis replacements and that is all.

In my honest opinion the last true muscle car sold in America was the Taurus SHO, a normal car made faster, not a from the ground up bling machine, I mean honestly if the only thing different about these cars was that they looked like large honda accords would you still want one? I bet you could find better options.

/rant

(the zo6 and zr1 are beasts, but not muscle cars at all.)

 

[xX J Brutal Xx 10+ year member]

the last muscle car was the 96 Impala SS

 

[hornedfrog1985 5,000+ posts]

lol^ you're joking right?

 

[crash9201 10+ year member]

if i had the money for a brand new SS(i would never consider buying an RS); i would just buy a 69 camaro ss and drop a a 454 in it, and have the most badass car around, the new camaro's look alright, but unless they have that big block rumble.... meh id rather have a classic muscle car... almost any classic muscle car, well i shouldnt add classic in there, there hasnt been a muscle car for YEARS...

 

[focused313 10+ year member]

I wonder if they will make a double din fit kit for that.

That radio sucks.
If GM wanted to save money they should use an industry standard single or double DIN.

Dumbsh!ts!

hah!! good luck finding an aftermarket radio mounting kit for that car
but nice car

lmao. That's the first thing I thought about when I looked at the pics. How in the world am I gonna put my Pioneer HU in there. Couldn't you get one fiberglassed?

I have seriously not bought cars because of the difficulty installing stereo systems.

 

[xX J Brutal Xx 10+ year member]

im sure someone will make something. GM has gotta have a Navi option for it

 

[Decible_Demon]

Who says there aren't or wont be suspension upgrades. You can make a mid 60's impala handle like a decent street racer if you want to put the mods into it.
European and Japanese cars have traditionally cornered better while American cars tend to be more designed around straight line performance and light cornering. Wonder why? Go drive some uropean streets, as compared to our laviously wide and long interstates and highways, and you'll better understand. I can respect the cornering performance of the smaller cars, why is it so hard to respect the performance of cars designed for a different intended environment and use?

The Z06 has been setting the supercar world on its ear the past few years because its been so successful at competing, performance wise, with many Exotics that cost much much more. For the price, its been one hell of a performer.

That's simply not true. The Viper has been a dominate force in road racing, but its weak point has been cornering. Smaller cars like the Corvette, BMW's and Porches corner better, but the brute strength of the vipers in the straight-aways was what won them all those races.

Yes its weak part has been cornering.... but look at the numbers. The recent numbers.

I even watched a slalom course comparing the two and the viper beat the vette.

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

I wouldn't want an 09 camaro or a 69 both are American pieces of shit, I'll take my honda civic any day of the week.

 

[M Cook 10+ year member]

Well, I'm a Mustang man myself, but I have to give the medal to Chevy this year, the 2010 Mustangs are ugly in the back. 435hp in a $52k car? My boss just bought a Roush, the V8 SCed. Its nice and all, but too heavy, and The Camaro looks better.

2011 Mustang Gts are confirmed that they are going back to the 5.0s, which would be nice. I think the Gt500s have 5.4s? Not sure about it, too lazy to llook it up.

IMO, wait for the 2011 Gts, if Ford makes them around the same price as this years Gts, and takes some of they gay *** plastic off the back.