28hz?

and im tuned to 26.5 why should i change my crossover freq i have tens for midbass ran full i have stupid midbass subs off mids viberate all 3 mirrors

 
and im tuned to 26.5 why should i change my crossover freq i have tens for midbass ran full i have stupid midbass subs off mids viberate all 3 mirrors
you said that your lows hit louder than your higher bass, leading me to believe that there is a gap between subs and midbass somewhere. your door speakers might be able to cover that some.

 
and even at 50 hrts it punchy enof to make you cringe i just set it up for lows that hurt your ears
ahh. i enjoy the lows that can't be heard also.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
In my limited experience higher tuning kicks *** on metal. I had a ported 8 tuned ~35-37hz. It was awesome on all but the lowest of rap. I had a single 12 tuned to 28hz, I didn't have the midbass to back it up. The setup was lacking from approx 50-80hz. Im concerned about the same issue with my IB but this time I will have eq ad better midbass drivers.

 
It's pretty obvious from the responses who listens for the musical aspects and who listens for output. It's also obvious who knows how to tune an enclosure based upon more than just regurgitated info. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Specs of the driver must be known, the transfer function of the vehicle must be known, and your musical tastes must be known. You can't just say to someone that 28Hz is too low and that it will result in a lack of midbass or otherwise unacceptable levels of performance. Far too many variables.

OP, if you like metal and hip hop, there's a pretty good chance you would enjoy a sealed setup. It would probably offer the balance of performance that you're looking for. If that sounds like something that would work for you, try to find a relatively efficient driver with low moving mass and low inductance with a Qts that would be suitable for sealed enclosures, about .5 and higher. The low mass and low inductance will lend itself to those fast, tight drum sounds and will reveal rich harmonic structures in the bass lines. If one driver sealed isn't enough output, maybe go with a pair.

Vented enclosures are resonant by nature and resonance stores energy, which corresponds with a high group delay. Group delay is responsible for robbing you of fast transients. Tuning low does help quite a bit to improve overall transient performance and there are many vented alignments with outstanding group delay and excellent transient response but none come close the transient response offered by a sealed enclosure.

 
It's pretty obvious from the responses who listens for the musical aspects and who listens for output. It's also obvious who knows how to tune an enclosure based upon more than just regurgitated info. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Specs of the driver must be known, the transfer function of the vehicle must be known, and your musical tastes must be known. You can't just say to someone that 28Hz is too low and that it will result in a lack of midbass or otherwise unacceptable levels of performance. Far too many variables.

OP, if you like metal and hip hop, there's a pretty good chance you would enjoy a sealed setup. It would probably offer the balance of performance that you're looking for. If that sounds like something that would work for you, try to find a relatively efficient driver with low moving mass and low inductance with a Qts that would be suitable for sealed enclosures, about .5 and higher. The low mass and low inductance will lend itself to those fast, tight drum sounds and will reveal rich harmonic structures in the bass lines. If one driver sealed isn't enough output, maybe go with a pair.

Vented enclosures are resonant by nature and resonance stores energy, which corresponds with a high group delay. Group delay is responsible for robbing you of fast transients. Tuning low does help quite a bit to improve overall transient performance and there are many vented alignments with outstanding group delay and excellent transient response but none come close the transient response offered by a sealed enclosure.
This is by far the best answer I have heard, but my big worry is that sealed won't get as low as I like, or am I wrong? And I have 4 of these incriminator audio 187 series 12's by the way.

 
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