sorry if it seemed like i was trying to insult your intelligence. its just when you buy something it quickly deppreciates. those subs carry no warranty. that may sound like a "crackhead" price, but i really think $100 to $150 max is what those subs are worth. $200 max if they were new in the box with no warranty. they are used. remember you can get a the same subs new for $129 each at milliondollarbuy.com and $139 new at etronics with a one year warranty. the key word is WARRANTY. that is why people pay more. No warranty = low price. peace