12 JL 12w6 vs MTX 8500?

[thompson 10+ year member]

Right now I'm in a situation where I'm deciding if I should swap my pair of 12w6 in a 3.5 cu box tuned to around 36 hz for a pair of 12" mtx8500 in the sledge hammer box they come in. I know that the mtx8500 can take more power even thought they are rated less than the w6. They also have an xmas of 22 vs the w6 0f 16 xmas. The mtx 8500 are also more sensitive by more than 3 db. Will the mtx 8500 still hit lows as well as the w6s becuase I love lows. Which subs are going to be louder and how much louder? Its it worth it? any suggestions would be great.

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[UMWDawg92 10+ year member]

build a new lower tuned box if you love lows and keep the w6s

 

[NissanKicker 10+ year member]

^^^^ That!

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

or get some better subs then mtx and/or build a lower tuned box

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

The 8500's are loud subs, but in no way will they sound better than the W6's. If you're just looking to have a loud setup, let us know what kind of budget you're working with, and how much power you have available(and at what ohm load).

 

[thompson 10+ year member]

The 8500's are loud subs, but in no way will they sound better than the W6's. If you're just looking to have a loud setup, let us know what kind of budget you're working with, and how much power you have available(and at what ohm load).

I have a fosgate T1000bdcp that is rated 1595 rms at 1 ohm and 1525 rms at 2 ohms. I want a louder bass with still a decent sq that still have good lows. I bought my 2 12w6 in the box for $350 used. The mtx 8500s are selling for the same price used. So I can work around $400

 

[UMWDawg92 10+ year member]

one of these would make you happy SSA Xcon 15" Sub woofer1750rms 31mm Xmax

 

[thompson 10+ year member]

The ssa xcon 15 does seem the be an asome subwoofer. My concern is will it really outperform the 2 12w6? and by how much? I only have enough space in my car to build a 4 cu ft box

 

[UMWDawg92 10+ year member]

it willl out perform the w6s and 4 cubes is plenty... that is actually reccomended box size for it and you can tune it low and it will still perform well

 

[Bassin Buick]

Right now I'm in a situation where I'm deciding if I should swap my pair of 12w6 in a 3.5 cu box tuned to around 36 hz for a pair of 12" mtx8500 in the sledge hammer box they come in. I know that the mtx8500 can take more power even thought they are rated less than the w6. They also have an xmas of 22 vs the w6 0f 16 xmas. The mtx 8500 are also more sensitive by more than 3 db. Will the mtx 8500 still hit lows as well as the w6s becuase I love lows. Which subs are going to be louder and how much louder? Its it worth it? any suggestions would be great.

Not positive but i think jl's are rated 1w/1m where mtx's are rated 2.83v/1m. that can usually yeild about 3db difference in numbers but is actually the same sensitivity. I may be wrong though about the way the 2 companies rate them so double check for yourself.

 

[thompson 10+ year member]

I want to get a ssa xcon 18". I actually might be able to squeeze in a 5 cu ft box into my trunck. The 18" sub sell for $399 plus shipping but there's another option where the sub costs 279 plus shipping and I need to wait 1 week for build time. Should I go with the lower cost deal instead to save money? Is there a flaw I don't know about? Will the 18 still be decent in a 5 cu box? any help would be great

 

[wytbw 10+ year member]

Question is how much power you currently running the 12's off of cureently?

 

[UMWDawg92 10+ year member]

I want to get a ssa xcon 18". I actually might be able to squeeze in a 5 cu ft box into my trunck. The 18" sub sell for $399 plus shipping but there's another option where the sub costs 279 plus shipping and I need to wait 1 week for build time. Should I go with the lower cost deal instead to save money? Is there a flaw I don't know about? Will the 18 still be decent in a 5 cu box? any help would be great

you're better off getting the 15 and porting it cause 5 cubes is too small to port the 18

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

Elemental Designs: Car Stereo, Home Speakers, Electronics

go with 2 18's if your going sealed with this bad boy 42 pound monster with amazing sq

if not id do the xcon 15 ported

or 2

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=2&products_id=36

ported

 

[thompson 10+ year member]

I have a fosgate T1000bdcp that is rated 1595 rms at 1 ohm and 1525 rms at 2 ohms. I'm probally getting 1100-1200rms out of the amp