1 XXX 15 Ported or 2 XXX 15's Sealed For Most Output

[stangme01 10+ year member]

James, get an Avalanche 15", believe me you will like it better for SQ and SPL especially ported. Hell it gets just as loud off of 1/2 the power and has even better low end //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif $299 a sub you cannot beat that!

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

James, get an Avalanche 15", believe me you will like it better for SQ and SPL especially ported. Hell it gets just as loud off of 1/2 the power and has even better low end //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif $299 a sub you cannot beat that!

Id love to see you prove those statements.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

James, get an Avalanche 15", believe me you will like it better for SQ and SPL especially ported. Hell it gets just as loud off of 1/2 the power and has even better low end //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif $299 a sub you cannot beat that!

You haven't even heard the Avalanche yet...nice job.

 

[james33440 10+ year member]

LOL! I'll stick with the XXX. Thanks for the suggestion though. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[BoominBeast]

um... 2 sealed and one ported would sound totally different.

Off course 2 sealed. This ones a no brainer. It will sound so much better sealed.

 

[stangme01 10+ year member]

You haven't even heard the Avalanche yet...nice job.

no you are correct i haven't but friends have and they i trust their ears more than mine and they used SPL meters to assure they heard correct.

I have owned a XXX and i know its downright innefficient and with 2.5KW it didn't get very loud, and I've also owned the Tumult which has around the same efficiency of the XXX in real world, 2.5KW also didn't get this thing all that loud. And the Avalanche gets louder with 1/2 the power. Toxic Tuan has run over 4KW to an avalanche and still cannot get it to blow. How much power do you need to get a XXX louder before it blows? Because it cannot handle any more power than the Avalanche //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif the only difference is about 5mm xmax which is not going to be audibly noticeable even sealed.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

no you are correct i haven't but friends have and they i trust their ears more than mine and they used SPL meters to assure they heard correct.
I have owned a XXX and i know its downright innefficient and with 2.5KW it didn't get very loud, and I've also owned the Tumult which has around the same efficiency of the XXX in real world, 2.5KW also didn't get this thing all that loud. And the Avalanche gets louder with 1/2 the power. Toxic Tuan has run over 4KW to an avalanche and still cannot get it to blow. How much power do you need to get a XXX louder before it blows? Because it cannot handle any more power than the Avalanche //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif the only difference is about 5mm xmax which is not going to be audibly noticeable even sealed.

Yeah...I've seen what you have to say about the XXX...and I saw your Maxxbass review also, and I've seen what others have said about that unit (that it's a POS)- not for nothing, I take everything you say with a grain of salt, as just about everyone else has come to the opposite conclusion on many things as you do...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

no you are correct i haven't but friends have and they i trust their ears more than mine and they used SPL meters to assure they heard correct.

Your friends' SPL meter read that an Avalanche was louder than a XXX with half the power? You sir, are a liar.

As for your comments on the SQ, well admitting you've never even heard the driver whose SQ you are touting so highly just shows you have no problem talking about something you know nothing about. Like snova said, nice job, really. Its people like you that spread misinformation around these boards. Im all for reviews and comparisons, but what you are spewing here is pure propaganda with no real experience to even prove it.

Have a nice day.

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

all i know is 15" ava> 2 shivas. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif now the XXX and brahma/tumult discussion i have no clue on.

 

[jtomsic 5,000+ posts]

id go with the 2 XXXs sealed will sound good and get very low.

 

[stangme01 10+ year member]

Yeah...I've seen what you have to say about the XXX...and I saw your Maxxbass review also, and I've seen what others have said about that unit (that it's a POS)- not for nothing, I take everything you say with a grain of salt, as just about everyone else has come to the opposite conclusion on many things as you do...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

thats funny can you point me in the direction of all these people that ACTUALLY USED THIS PROCESSOR and hated it? Hmmmm don't think there are many maybe 1 or 2 that just threw it in really quick without tuning.....smart...

And snova now i'm so depressed because you don't think my opinions are important boohoo //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[stangme01 10+ year member]

Your friends' SPL meter read that an Avalanche was louder than a XXX with half the power? You sir, are a liar.
As for your comments on the SQ, well admitting you've never even heard the driver whose SQ you are touting so highly just shows you have no problem talking about something you know nothing about. Like snova said, nice job, really. Its people like you that spread misinformation around these boards. Im all for reviews and comparisons, but what you are spewing here is pure propaganda with no real experience to even prove it.

Have a nice day.

No the Avalanche was louder than the Tumult with only 600w when the Tumult was running around 1500w, and the Tumult is very similar to the XXX in efficiency and sound. And there are a few things that were pointed out to me by friends about the advantages in upper frequency response with the avalanche over the XXX and is just as accurate, most people's main complaint with the XXX is no upper bass 60-80hz. As i said i trust these guy's ears more than mine. and so far every single person has preferred the avalanche over the XXX and Brahma for some reason or another.

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[stangme01 10+ year member]

oh and audioholic you're an ******* have a nice day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[stangme01 10+ year member]

http://www.visionaryaudio.com/Reviews.htm here is a review i just found too, interesting review, and i see he had some similar results as my friend Chris did.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

No the Avalanche was louder than the Tumult with only 600w when the Tumult was running around 1500w, and the Tumult is very similar to the XXX in efficiency and sound. And there are a few things that were pointed out to me by friends about the advantages in upper frequency response with the avalanche over the XXX and is just as accurate, most people's main complaint with the XXX is no upper bass 60-80hz. As i said i trust these guy's ears more than mine. and so far every single person has preferred the avalanche over the XXX and Brahma for some reason or another.


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60-80hz? You need to learn what "subbass" is. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Subwoofers should never play above 80hz anyway, even that is too high for my taste. No, xxx's dont play well above 80hz. If you are running 4x6's for your front stage, I suggest you order more appropriate subs. But those of us with real midbass setup's could care less what a sub's performance is above 80hz, might at well be 20khz.

As for the xxx comparison, until you compare a xxx to an Ava, I suggest you not make blanket statements like "it gets just as loud off of 1/2 the power and has even better low end". If 'your friends' compared an Ava to a Tumult, why do you think its appropriate to make such a statement about a xxx? Because it has a 'similar' efficiency rating to a Tumult? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

The Ava has better low end than a xxx? Have you heard a xxx? Oh that's right, you haven't. Has your friend heard a xxx? Nope. Yet you make statements about its bottom end. Again, this proves you have no problem speaking about something you know nothing about.

As for which is louder, that is such a tired arguement. Are we even comparing similar installs? Oops, you are comparing specs in your head based off a third party friend's test of what you consider a similar sub. That's so scientific I can't imagine how'd I'd ever question that! rofl

In conclusion, you take third hand information (from a friend) about a test between an Ava and a Tumult, check a couple specs, come to your own conclusion then come here and say about a xxx: "it gets just as loud off of 1/2 the power and has even better low end", without you (or even your friend) having heard a xxx. If you don't see all the breaks in that chain of logic, there's something wrong with you.