'06 Si vs '06 GTI

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

OK ladies since you have gotten off onto H22's and B18's I will take it back to the topic. Besides that, the quickest out of those two locally that I have seen, was an H23A in a CB7. Low 12's. Forgot the numbers but it was a quick one.
My dad has agreed to go look into the GTI. SO hopefully I can order that. Even though the car is a gift, I already told him I'll drop what I can on it to order the GTI.

Oh btw, desertheat, that's cool that your Toyota runs 14.3's but you do realize you are saying a modified car vs two stock ones? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif Let me modify the GTI (if I can get it) and we'll talk..lol :boobies: Hopefully your tC is still clean and nothing retarded on it. Pics?

its worth noting that the toyotas engine is pretty much bulletproof and can handle ~400 stock with minimal work

but.... dsg ftw, anybody know how much power it can handle?

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

its worth noting that the toyotas engine is pretty much bulletproof and can handle ~400 stock with minimal work
but.... dsg ftw, anybody know how much power it can handle?

From what I've read no one knows how much the DSG can handle but I'm not getting that anyways.

Yes, I know Toyota's are literally bulletproof but I was just stating the fact that its still a modified car vs stock one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

Yeah but I am talking price for price. The tc with the sc package and engine mods would cost the he same if not less than the si or vw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I am not talking modified or not. Just doller for doller. And yes she is kept clean, already have many compliments from the v8 / american guys at shows who now hang out with my "import" Was not trying to get this post offtopic but since you asked, here are a few photos... I have the exhaust setup so she is no louder at all on the freeway or daily driving. People think she is stock except for the whine from the supercharger. I build cars with taste and drivability in mind, not bling bling with 500 stickers or a fart can exhaust. She also has many many other mods besides just power.

The tc is a great all around drivers car with light suspension mods. I am running on Tein h-techs with hotchkis front and rear sway bars. Awsome combo. She rides on the freeway or in town just as nice and soft as stock, but hit her in the twisties and she tears it up big time, for a ff she will darn near oversteer if not heavy on the throttle, I have front sway set to soft and rear sway set to the most stiff setting. Interior has plenty of room and is quality. The all glass roof is amazing. features like auto up and down on drivers and passenger side windows, one touch tilt / open sunroof makes it feel like allot more expensive car than it is. Brakes are the same units found on the celica gts and stop the car in good time from memory was tested at 116 feet". My only complaint is lack of an LSD which the SI has. Quafe is offering one soon and I will install it along with a clutch when the time comes. Best thing is a tc's price loaded, not stripped is $16.700. I chose some options that cost allot more like side airbags, factory ground effects kit, factory spoiler and the like so it ran me more doh. But the bottom line is for the same cash as a si or vw, you can beat them both and keep your factory warranty //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Forgot to mention the torque, she has loads of it with the 2.4L engine and now running 9.5 psi at 9.5:1 compression. Very responsive engine. Going through the mountains rocks now with the supercharger, not loss in hp like it did when it was n/a The vw will also rock in the mountains, and the civic will be a dog above 5-6K feet.

last note, if you wanted to pump some cash, say around $4K extra into your tc for a set of forged pistons and custom rods you can easily be in the 350-400whp mark daily driver reliable "$24,000 - $25,000 total cost". But that is a bit much for me as when I get my dream car, the wife will use the tc as her daily driver. The TRD supercharger I am running is actually nothing more than a vortech f-trim sc unit capable of 20 psi. I am right at 230-235 to the wheels right now at 9.5 psi with oem TRD tuning / ecm flash which is crazy on the safe side and running very rich //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif "255-260 crank" Which is plenty for me. With some very small other mods and some sticky rubber I will nail a high 13 which is all I want the car to do and then it will be retired from racing and my pennies will go to the purchase of my lotus exige hehe.

Forgot to mention the car averages 26-28mpg. Worst I have seen playing hard on the throttle was 22

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

I just read in scc that the GTi has a torsion beam rear suspension..? is this correct..? if it is, what a joke.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

should hit up the R32

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

I just read in scc that the GTi has a torsion beam rear suspension..? is this correct..? if it is, what a joke.

5Zigen's...nice. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

The older Mark's did. The MkV has a four-link rear suspension.

To snb- The R32 is in Europe and Canada currently. It will be awhile before it's here.

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

Anyways keep the tc in mind since your spending your dads coin. He could buy the car for tons less, and let you spend the $$$ to modify it how you see fit. All choices are great cars.

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

Anyways keep the tc in mind since your spending your dads coin. He could buy the car for tons less, and let you spend the $$$ to modify it how you see fit. All choices are great cars.

Yes, I have thought about it. But I can't directly mod either car he buys for me. Since the GTI is already turbo'd, I can do easy mods that he won't notice. Example: I can do exhaust, wheels, tint, any audio I want(since yeah..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ). Things I will do he won't really know about: APR Chip, possibly a slighter larger turbo, and possibly new IC. I don't want the car to run 12's but mid 13's would be nice. So if I got the tC I couldn't go get a SC for it.

All in all I am very lucky to have my dad offer to buy me a new car for my 18th.

 

[johnecon2001 5,000+ posts]

k24 ftw, i was going to swap one into my96 accord (did they swap the heads? or the whole block?)

They probably swapped the K20 head onto the k24 block. thats what everyone does these days.

It was the whole block. Most people use new cams and a different Intake Manny. In this case, they used '05 RSX type S cams (same as DC5 in japan).

And it's VTEC, n00bx.

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

SVT LIGHTNING pones but.......since i was pulled over in a stock civic that was topped out and the cop said we were goin 95 i say get the gti

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

i like spelling it vtech or vtek like the noobs doooo

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

Vtec is ninjas that hide in the engine. They only come out at certian RPM

Thats why when you reach the point where it turns on your car sounds different and you get more power.

Thats the Ninjas doing their special work.

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

The ninjas in my truck make whining noises.... comes to find out it was a supercharger all along

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

Gti.....

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

Gti.....

Well my dad and I went and looked at the GTI last night. He just wanted to see it but we didn't get the keys to get inside of it. (I did that on Monday but he didn't want to last night?) He likes the Si styling alot better. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif I like the GTI better. We'll see....I'm hoping for the GTI but I will drive either. The warranty on the GTI is better than the Si's so that might just save me on getting the GTI.