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Why does this matter?
It's part of the discussion. If it can't be backed up with proof, it shouldn't be claimed.
I never said he did anything illegal. You, on the other hand, have not shown me proof that Trump did anything different, than Obama, when deporting people. I showed you an article where Obama raided a factory.
Exactly. So why the apples-to-oranges comparison of Obama's or Biden's legal deportations to Trump's illegal ones?
How are they considered analogous?

Trump has done nothing different? Seriously? Have you not seen ANYTHING about the law vioations his admin is committing on a regualr basis? FFS, it was verified inc ourt, he was gioven a court order, and he even violated THAT. You really think that's the same as Obama?

If you want to say Obama or Biden did the same thing as Trump, you'll have to show that Obama or Biden and his admin deported all those people illegally.

Still reaching and trying to flip the conversation? You know damn well you have been provided proof. You just refuse to acknowledge it. I can't hold your hand and read it out for you. You will have to have you mom to that for you.
Yeah. You "gave me the number" to answer all of my requests for proofs form you.
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You know, "the number" that tells us how many water towers, the capcity of the line/s feeding those towers, the capacity of the pumps filling the towers, tha feed capacity of the towers themselves, how many lines were connected to how many hydrants, how much water was still in the reservoirs after the fires were out, the number of firefighters running the lines, etc.
Yeah, "the number".
Can you share "the number" again? The one that answers all the questions?
So, are you really ignorant or just playing ignorant?
It would be ignorant if I let you continue to claim you answered all of my questions with "the number".
I'm still waiting for proof that Trump is a convicted ****** and *********.
Who said Trump is a convicted ******?
HE admitted to being a ****** predator *********.
 
Trump has done nothing different? Seriously? Have you not seen ANYTHING about the law vioations his admin is committing on a regualr basis? FFS, it was verified inc ourt, he was gioven a court order, and he even violated THAT. You really think that's the same as Obama?

If you want to say Obama or Biden did the same thing as Trump, you'll have to show that Obama or Biden and his admin deported all those people illegally.

Well geez mister idk??

I wonder if these things you claim are "illegal" would still be if the Judges were not Obama/Biden appointed judges??

NOBODY fought against Obama or Biden when it came to deportations...

The only reason it is being fought against Trump is because orange man bad..

Get out of under that rock and catch up dude.
 
Well geez mister idk??

I wonder if these things you claim are "illegal" would still be if the Judges were not Obama/Biden appointed judges??
You should try some due diligence, instead of just parroting Trump's false complaints. “I wasn’t served well by the people that pick judges,” Trump vented Saturday.
PLENTY of Trump-appointed judges have ruled against him.

National Guard call-up

U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut, a first-term Trump appointee in Oregon, ruled that Trump’s effort to put National Guard troops in Portland was “untethered” from reality and risked plunging the nation into an unconstitutional form of military rule.

Deporting Guatemalan children

U.S. District Judge Tim Kelly, a first-term appointee in Washington, D.C., rejected the Trump administration’s claim that it was trying to reunite unaccompanied Guatemalan kids with their parents when it abruptly loaded hundreds of children onto buses and planes for a middle-of-the-night deportation effort. That explanation “crumbled like a house of cards,” he wrote, after the Guatemalan government contradicted the claim. Kelly blocked the immediate deportations, saying they appeared to violate the law.

Restricting the AP’s White House access

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden said the White House had unconstitutionally evicted the Associated Press from Oval Office events over its refusal to adopt Trump’s “Gulf of America” label. McFadden’s ruling was later put on hold by an appeals court. Notably, Trump has mischaracterized this ruling twice in recent days during public remarks, claiming that McFadden, a first-term appointee, not only sided with his restrictions on the AP but endorsed his relabeling of the Gulf of Mexico. Neither McFadden nor the appeals court reached such a conclusion.

Trump’s tariff power

Few issues are as central to Trump’s economic agenda as his power to levy tariffs at will against U.S. trading partners he claims are ripping off the country. But Timothy Reif, a judge he put on the U.S. Court of International Trade, joined two other judges in ruling that Trump lacked the legal power to impose such sweeping tariffs, a traditionally congressional authority. A federal appeals court later agreed with the panel, and the matter is now pending before the Supreme Court.

Summary deportations under the Alien Enemies Act

Several Trump-appointed judges joined a nationwide legal rebuke of the president and his administration over efforts to abruptly deport Venezuelan nationals using Trump’s wartime authority under the Alien Enemies Act. U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. was the first to label the effort “unlawful.” Two other first-term Trump appointees, U.S. District Judges John Holcomb and Stephanie Haines, ruled that Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act was legitimate but that the administration’s effort to speedily deport its targets violated their due process rights.

Returning Daniel Lozano Camargo

Among the targets of Trump’s Alien Enemies Act order was Daniel Lozano Camargo, a Venezuelan man who had been residing in Texas. Unlike others whom the administration abruptly sent to El Salvador under that order, Lozano Camargo was protected by a 2024 settlement requiring the government to resolve his pending asylum claim before deportation could occur. U.S. District Judge Stephanie Gallagher, a first-term Trump appointee in Maryland, ordered the administration to facilitate the man’s return to the United States — following the lead of her colleague on the Maryland bench, Obama appointee Paula Xinis, in the similar case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

Mandatory detention of potential deportees

The Trump administration has sought to vastly expand the use of detention for immigrants facing deportation — seeking to deprive bond hearings for all potential deportees, even if they’ve spent decades living in the United States. Dozens of judges have found the abrupt shift illegal, saying the move is potentially subjecting millions of people to being locked up while they fight to remain in the United States. In recent days, several Trump appointees have joined their ranks. They include first-term appointees: Dominic Lanza of Arizona, Rebecca Jennings of the Western District of Kentucky and Eric Tostrud of Minnesota. Kyle Dudek of the Middle District of Florida, whom Trump appointed this term, was confirmed to the bench just two weeks before ruling against the administration.

NOBODY fought against Obama or Biden when it came to deportations...
Still waiting for evidence of how they were doing it illegally. And if they WERE doing it illegally, an explanation of why the right wouldn't have spoken up about it, and taken action.
Failure to do so infers that they are OK with illegal stuff being done, as a means to an end.
The only reason it is being fought against Trump is because orange man bad..
Or becasue he is doing things illegally.
The right may not give a shit about the POTUS following the law, but it seems the left does.
Get out of under that rock and catch up dude.
What rock were you under when you were fed this line of crap: "I wonder if these things you claim are "illegal" would still be if the Judges were not Obama/Biden appointed judges??" ?
 
It's part of the discussion. If it can't be backed up with proof, it shouldn't be claimed.
I never made a claim about Trump deporting more than Biden, or vise-versa. However, here's some articles to bring you more pain. Trump's 2025 is not over yet, so the numbers are not listed.


Exactly. So why the apples-to-oranges comparison of Obama's or Biden's legal deportations to Trump's illegal ones?
How are they considered analogous?

Trump has done nothing different? Seriously? Have you not seen ANYTHING about the law vioations his admin is committing on a regualr basis? FFS, it was verified inc ourt, he was gioven a court order, and he even violated THAT. You really think that's the same as Obama?
What the retardation crap are you trying to say here?

If you want to say Obama or Biden did the same thing as Trump, you'll have to show that Obama or Biden and his admin deported all those people illegally.
This proves the courts are rigged against Trump. Trump is doing nothing different than what Obama was doing, and somehow, you libs think it should only be called out when Trump is doing it. I didn't see any of you puppets protesting Obama when he had Ice raiding factories and homes with armed ICE agents.


Another Biden lie, right here.

You know what's funny? You can't fine this stuff on Google. You have to use a none labral controlled search engine to find them.


Yeah. You "gave me the number" to answer all of my requests for proofs form you.
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You know, "the number" that tells us how many water towers, the capcity of the line/s feeding those towers, the capacity of the pumps filling the towers, tha feed capacity of the towers themselves, how many lines were connected to how many hydrants, how much water was still in the reservoirs after the fires were out, the number of firefighters running the lines, etc.
Yeah, "the number".
Can you share "the number" again? The one that answers all the questions?

It would be ignorant if I let you continue to claim you answered all of my questions with "the number".
First off, the discussion was about Bass not putting the backup reservoir in operations, which lead to the lack of water. Even if I repeated the numbers, you wouldn't know what they meant. You only started throwing the "The Number" out there to sway the discussion. Without the backup reservoir, it doesn't matter what the numbers are.
Who said Trump is a convicted ******?
HE admitted to being a ****** predator *********.
LOL...
You are the one who said Trump is a ******. Is your mind too far gone to remember? And Trump never said he was a *** predator of a *********. Please show me proof on this? Like your claim of him being a ******, I'm sure you will drop that topic also.
 
I never made a claim about Trump deporting more than Biden, or vise-versa. However, here's some articles to bring you more pain. Trump's 2025 is not over yet, so the numbers are not listed.


He can deport all the illegals in the US, as long as he does it legally.
I have no problem with things being done legally. Why does he have such a hard time not lying, not breaking the law, not failing?
What the retardation crap are you trying to say here?
I guess you were napping during the whole Kilmar Garcia issue?
You should probably look it up, instead of making yourself look so ill-informed again.
This proves the courts are rigged against Trump. Trump is doing nothing different than what Obama was doing, and somehow, you libs think it should only be called out when Trump is doing it. I didn't see any of you puppets protesting Obama when he had Ice raiding factories and homes with armed ICE agents.
That's a terribly powerful statement there. Very convincing.
Maybe to a 5-year-old. Not to me.
Pony up some facts to support your nonsensical claims.

Another Biden lie, right here.

You know what's funny? You can't fine this stuff on Google. You have to use a none labral controlled search engine to find them.
You can't find stuff on PolitiFact with Google? Do you not know how to type?
Literally 4 words, and it's the first result Google provides.
You on Windows 8, or something?
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First off, the discussion was about Bass not putting the backup reservoir in operations, which lead to the lack of water. Even if I repeated the numbers, you wouldn't know what they meant. You only started throwing the "The Number" out there to sway the discussion. Without the backup reservoir, it doesn't matter what the numbers are.
The discussion was about you blaming Newsom for the wildfires, and being completely unable to back up any of your claims by answering the simple questions I asked of you.
The "backup reservoir" is irrelevant if the online reservoirs never ran dry.

YOU threw "the number" as your claim that you had answered all of my questions. It was your attempt to claim that I simply refuse to accept facts that are presented. Ironically, it only showed that you never provided said proofs.

These are just some of the questions you claimed to have answered with "the number":

Tell me how many hydrants you think were feeding how many hoses while they tried to fight a 20,000 acre fire.
Try harder and name a city that can flow without any interruption or loss of pressure 5-10x as much water as they normally use in a day.
Try harder and show me how having even as little as 500,000,000 gallons of water in the reservoir hampered flow at the hydrants.
Show me how it's Newsom's fault that the main feed line from the reservoir that you claim is 36" (17,000 GPM flow rate to feed three towers drawing water at 1,000 GPM) is "not enough.
Name the "fire chief" that you spoke to, who said it was Newsom's fault that the blaze went out of control almost instantly in 80-100 MPH winds off the ocean.
What was/is the number of towers/tanks in the area of the fire?
What is the capacity of the tanks?
What was the capacity of the pumps feeding the tower tanks?
What was the water level of the reservoir that was still in use (was it Hollywood Res, upper and lower)?
How many hydrants were in use, and how many hoses were in use?
How many pumpers were they filling and refilling?

LOL...
You are the one who said Trump is a ******. Is your mind too far gone to remember? And Trump never said he was a *** predator of a *********. Please show me proof on this? Like your claim of him being a ******, I'm sure you will drop that topic also.
I indeed said he is a ******. It was your choice to claim I said he was a convicted ******. A thing I never did.
Don't attribute things to me that I never said, then ask me to say you are right.
I posted YouTube links of Trump. speaking in his own voice, telling the world that he is a ****** predator and a *********.

If you want to pretend it's not him, and make yourself look even more foolish, go right ahead.
 
I indeed said he is a ******. It was your choice to claim I said he was a convicted ******. A thing I never did.
Don't attribute things to me that I never said, then ask me to say you are right.
I posted YouTube links of Trump. speaking in his own voice, telling the world that he is a ****** predator and a *********.
Ya know, I watched the videos and I don't hear him saying he is a ****** predator or a pedo. Maybe liberals hear things differently when they are brainwashed.
 
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