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[RobGMN Premium Member]

So if they were to cut all the farm subsidies, then we could call them waste and fraud.
If they were to point out that no organized religion pays taxes on their income, we could say it's waste and fraud.
If they were to force trump to stay at the White House, we could call his weekly golfing trips to his own properties (funded with tax money) waste and fraud.
If they were to chop the federal funds that go back to red states in excess of what they pay IN, it would be identifying and eliminating waste and fraud.

ANY funding that they cut is waste and fraud, simply because they cut it. Right?

Since you bring up the 9-month-old getting a subsidy/loan, please provide the facts about the situation.
When did it happen? What was the subsidy/loan for? Who did the application? Who approved the application?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Tell me how cutting government waste and fraud means the ability to cut taxes for the wealthy.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

But they so often seem to be Republicans, and not the ***** people or homosexuals that the right always wants to accuse of "destroying society"

Coincidence, or deep-state conspiracy?

So you are implying that particular behavior does happen more with one party than the other. Do you have any data to support that claim.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Why should the left condemn people who vandalize cars and car dealerships, if the right isn't going to condemn people who attempt a coup by attacking our nations Capitol, or condemn Trump, who is a racist, ******, felon, misogynist, ****** predator?

Hell, not only did the right not condemn the insurrectionists, their ****** POTUS pardoned them and wants to COMPENSATE THEM for their time in jail.

Why should the left be held to a standard that the right is very obviously not held to?

The left should condemn them because that's the right thing to do. EDS has destroyed the left's ability to reason to the point that they would question why they should advise people to not commit these horrible acts. Astonishing...

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

Tell me how cutting government waste and fraud means the ability to cut taxes for the wealthy.

The proposed tax cuts cannot be passed without greatly increasing the debt limit. A handful of actually fiscal conservative Republicans won't go for that and the vote will fail. So they're cutting legitimate agencies, programs, and grants.....and simply saying "FRAUD!" and "WASTE!". Some people buy it without question, which is bizarre.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The proposed tax cuts cannot be passed without greatly increasing the debt limit. A handful of actually fiscal conservative Republicans won't go for that and the vote will fail. So they're cutting legitimate agencies, programs, and grants.....and simply saying "FRAUD!" and "WASTE!". Some people buy it without question, which is bizarre.

That doesn't make sense. If they are cutting the fraud and waste they are decreasing the the debt. The limit is still the same.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

That doesn't make sense. If they are cutting the fraud and waste they are decreasing the the debt. The limit is still the same.

If they cut taxes, they bring in less revenue. Debt goes up. This is simple to understand. In order to not have to increase the debt limit by a large amount (which won't pass).....they are cutting critical programs and agencies under the guise of 'waste' and 'fraud'.....as well as levying a massive tax increase on the consumer class through tariffs.

It's all a massive grift. Go figure that a couple of billionaire pieces of shit like Trump and Musk would screw the country over for their own selfish reasons. That's what you get when you vote for sociopaths.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

If they cut taxes, they bring in less revenue. Debt goes up. This is simple to understand. In order to not have to increase the debt limit by a large amount (which won't pass).....they are cutting critical programs and agencies under the guise of 'waste' and 'fraud'.....as well as levying a massive tax increase on the consumer class through tariffs.

It's all a massive grift. Go figure that a couple of billionaire pieces of shit like Trump and Musk would screw the country over for their own selfish reasons. That's what you get when you vote for sociopaths.

So a 9 month old getting a $100,000 loan was made up as part of a much larger conspiracy to cut taxes for the rich. Ok. Makes sense now. TDS be runnin WILD in here!!

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

So a 9 month old getting a $100,000 loan was made up as part of a much larger conspiracy to cut taxes for the rich. Ok. Makes sense now. TDS be runnin WILD in here!!

I have no idea what you are referring to. Regardless....it's a dunderheaded argument as a $100,000 loan doesn't explain away everything that's being cut. It's just a shiny object to distract the gullible.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I have no idea what you are referring to. Regardless....it's a dunderheaded argument as a $100,000 loan doesn't explain away everything that's being cut. It's just a shiny object to distract the gullible.

You have no idea what I am referring to? You seem to have over educated yourself on your little wealthy tax cut conspiracy but have no idea of what DOGE has uncovered? We should all stop, regroup and start following your lead.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

You have no idea what I am referring to? You seem to have over educated yourself on your little wealthy tax cut conspiracy but have no idea of what DOGE has uncovered? We should all stop, regroup and start following your lead.

I know that Muks has thrown around a whole lot of false information in the past couple of months.....and that the actual fraud that DOGE has uncovered is a pittance. For example....your big bombshell example is $100,000. You do realize that this is an immaterial amount, right? A rounding error on the financials? This isn't verification of fraud and waste on a massive scale. It's a shiny toy for the gullible to use as a laughably bad example for why they blindly trust a nutjob like Muks.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

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