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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I said it a long time ago, but these court cases benefit Trump.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It's not ****** assault if neither party objects. Man, you really want to label him as a criminal don't you.

It's ****** assault if there is no direct or implied consent.
You failure to understand this may be part of why you think a **** hasn't occurred unless you personally watched it happen.

Ironic that you ignored answering.

Again showing you don't know what "ironic" means.
What is ironic about me not following your commands? Did you really EXPECT me to?

The Appellate Court.

The Appellate Court told judge Engorn how he should rule before he made his ruling?
Which judge form the Appellate Court, and when?

It's not fraud, if I get the $20,000 loan then do I not have to pay it back? Did they have to give me the loan? Again, you are reaching.

It's an interesting belief you have there, but it's wrong. It's financial fraud to lie on a loan application. It's misrepresenting the value of an asset to secure a loan. Illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 1343, 18 U.S.C. § 1344, 42 U.S.C. § 408. All of these laws prohibit false statements on a financial application.
When you sign, you are declaring under penalty for perjury that all information is true and accurate.

Geeeee you gonna blame Trump?

Are you suggesting Trump isn't responsible for the false declaration of his asset values in order to secure loans?
Who are YOU placing the blame on for the fraud?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's ****** assault if there is no direct or implied consent.
You failure to understand this may be part of why you think a **** hasn't occurred unless you personally watched it happen.

Nope. You don't know what kind of gathering it is. What you NEED is more information before you make your decisions Rob.

Again showing you don't know what "ironic" means.
What is ironic about me not following your commands? Did you really EXPECT me to?

Ironic that you are trying to school me on a word you incorrectly overuse.

The Appellate Court told judge Engorn how he should rule before he made his ruling?
Which judge form the Appellate Court, and when?

I never said they were telling him HOW HE SHOULD RULE. He was informed that what he was doing was not correct.

It's an interesting belief you have there, but it's wrong. It's financial fraud to lie on a loan application. It's misrepresenting the value of an asset to secure a loan. Illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 1343, 18 U.S.C. § 1344, 42 U.S.C. § 408. All of these laws prohibit false statements on a financial application.
When you sign, you are declaring under penalty for perjury that all information is true and accurate.

If it is MY property I can say its value is whatever I want it to be. The value of my personal property is not up to anyone else. All they can say is "I don't want to pay that". If other people were allowed to set the prices on other peoples properties then people would be getting great deals all the time and the seller would be getting screwed. It's all about what people are willing to pay. Don't like the price, don't buy it. I know you are far left but it's what normal people call a CHOICE.

Are you suggesting Trump isn't responsible for the false declaration of his asset values in order to secure loans?
Who are YOU placing the blame on for the fraud?

You spoke of a housing problem in 2008 Rob, I asked if you were going to blame Trump for that. Clearly you are in full argue mode and don't want to pay attention or follow along. Have a good one.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Woah!

Maryland's Key Bridge collapses after being struck by a container ship

Video shows the moment the vessel plowed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, sending the structure crashing into the Patapsco River, shortly before 1.30am Eastern.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Welcome to the technocracy:

JPMorgan To Roll Out Controversial Biometric Payments

Face-scanning payments are planned for 2025.

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope. You don't know what kind of gathering it is. What you NEED is more information before you make your decisions Rob.

Ohhh, so you're talking about gatherings where men just walk up to women and grope them or kiss them, without having to get any type of indication that it's OK. Kind of like a hooker party, or maybe an Epstein Island gig.
Got it.

Ironic that you are trying to school me on a word you incorrectly overuse.

You tried this ploy before. And you were never able to show an example of my "incorrect" use. Even other members here said you got it wrong.

So, you thought it ironic that I didn't follow your command. What is ironic (i.e. unexpected; happening in the opposite way to what is expected).
Why would you expect me to follow your command on this forum? Did you become a moderator recently?

I never said they were telling him HOW HE SHOULD RULE. He was informed that what he was doing was not correct.

That is in effect telling someone how they should decide a case. There's guilty, and not guilty. If they tell him he shouldn't rule one way, then they are in effect telling him to rule the other way.
What justice told him he should rule not guilty before he handed down his decision?
What justice told him what the fines should be before he handed down his decision?
This is an interesting tangent to the appeals court allowing the bond to be reduced for no apparent reason other than it being demanded by the attorneys.

If it is MY property I can say its value is whatever I want it to be. The value of my personal property is not up to anyone else. All they can say is "I don't want to pay that". If other people were allowed to set the prices on other peoples properties then people would be getting great deals all the time and the seller would be getting screwed. It's all about what people are willing to pay. Don't like the price, don't buy it. I know you are far left but it's what normal people call a CHOICE.

Yes, you can claim your jalopy Elantra is worth $150,000 all you want. Maybe some fools will believe you.
.But when you put that number on a financial form to get a loan against the value of the car, it becomes fraud under the legal references I gave you. You don't get to use beliefs or feelings as a factual value.
In case you forgot, it's covered by 18 U.S.C § 1014. You can read the law here. It's a bit wordy: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1014

It's also why you can't take a $750,000 loan on a house that is worth $68,000, unless you can show the difference is going to be spent directly on the house/property. And even then, they'll limit the loan to the value THEY can get out of the property if you default on the loan.
That's mortgage fraud, also covered under 18 U.S.C § 1014.

Political leaning has NOTHING to do with banking laws, financial fraud, etc. When you commit fraud and get caught, the judge doesn't say "I am a right-winger, so I will give you a pass on this one. Keep the money and eff the bank". Nor does a bank say "Hey, you like Biden? Cool! Just sign here and we'll loan you $500K to buy a house that doesn't even exit on that empty lot in downtown Detroit".

You really need to let go of that whole "far left" mantra when it comes to discussions like this. Saying the existence and enforcement of law is a "far left" concept really makes you sound terribly unintelligent.

You spoke of a housing problem in 2008 Rob, I asked if you were going to blame Trump for that. Clearly you are in full argue mode and don't want to pay attention or follow along. Have a good one.

I'm sorry I didn't hold your hand and walk you through it step-by-step so you could easily understand the reference.
The reason I mentioned the housing crisis of 2008 was that it involved (very simplified explanation) mortgages that exceeded the value of houses.
When the mortgage exceeds the value of the house and there is default, the bank gets f*ked. That is a bad thing.
Getting a loan based on an inflated value of the collateral is not only illegal, but it can end up having pretty big ramifications.

Were you able to follow along and comprehend, or are you still confused by false valuation on a financial document?

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Now be investigating as terror attack. Black swan event

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Dead cat bounce

 

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[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Woah!

Maryland's Key Bridge collapses after being struck by a container ship

Video shows the moment the vessel plowed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, sending the structure crashing into the Patapsco River, shortly before 1.30am Eastern.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Beat me to it.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Beat me to it.

William J. DelBagno Named Special Agent in Charge of the Baltimore Field Office | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Director Christopher Wray has named William J. DelBagno as the special agent in charge of the Baltimore Field Office.

www.fbi.gov

March 25, 2024

William J. DelBagno Named Special Agent in Charge of the Baltimore Field Office​

Director Christopher Wray has named William J. DelBagno as the special agent in charge of the Baltimore Field Office. Mr. DelBagno most recently served as the acting assistant director of the Inspection Division at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Cyber Threat to US Power Grids Escalating as Election Approaches

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