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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

That's not how that works...you made a claim and can't back it up buddy...

By the way...am I twerking, doing the salsa, maybe limboing...how do you see me when you think about ***** spokey dancing in a thunderstorm?

He thinks of the helicopter

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

He thinks of the helicopter

I'm not sure I have enough propeller for lift off

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Clearly your goal is to just keep going on and on. All you are doing is instigating. You have been told several times why this or why that and you outright ignore it and keep saying the same ignorant shit over and over.

So you are unable to prove any of your claims, and you will find any excuse possible to avoid doing so.
Then you will cry that others question your lies, and say it is wrong to do so.
Got it.

Show us proof that Trump lied 31,000+ times and provide proof for each lie.

Did it multiple times, but will do it again since you obviously have so short a memory you can't remember your OWN posts.
Here is the database with all of the lies and the data to prove WHY they are lies. It would be impossible for me to post all 31,000 lies here, and you know that.
Don't try to use it as your sidestep to claim the lies never happened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

That's not how that works...you made a claim and can't back it up buddy...

By the way...am I twerking, doing the salsa, maybe limboing...how do you see me when you think about ***** spokey dancing in a thunderstorm?

I backed it up with the evidence taking directly from his "speech". The one where he wants his sycophants to "fight like hell" to stop the vote. A phrase that cannot be considered a euphemism when he wants it done HOURS before the vote is to take place. There is no legal "fight like hell" that is possible in such a short time.

Now, you want to claim he DIDN'T incite insurrection, then you get to prove YOUR claim.
Go ahead. Prove your claim.

You're "doing the salsa"? Sounds kind of creepy. Might not want to admit that in public.

He thinks of the helicopter

You should think of getting a job and contributing to society.
Sihtting in your bed and fantasizing that you are a traveler of the universe who has been resurrected from the dead doesn't pay the bills.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I backed it up with the evidence taking directly from his "speech

You've shown nothing that backs up what you claimed he said..your "proof" is your own extremely biased interpretation of his words.. which isnt fact...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you are unable to prove any of your claims, and you will find any excuse possible to avoid doing so.
Then you will cry that others question your lies, and say it is wrong to do so.
Got it.

Whatever you say Rob.

Did it multiple times, but will do it again since you obviously have so short a memory you can't remember your OWN posts.
Here is the database with all of the lies and the data to prove WHY they are lies. It would be impossible for me to post all 31,000 lies here, and you know that.
Don't try to use it as your sidestep to claim the lies never happened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

No ya don't loser. I said YOU show us proof and back that proof up. Not some link to your biased propaganda. You claim Trump lied over 31,000 times now back your claim up or be labeled the liar we all know you to be. Come on, list each lie followed by its proof.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You've shown nothing that backs up what you claimed he said..your "proof" is your own extremely biased interpretation of his words.. which isnt fact...View attachment 57425

For fvck sake, learn how to resize images in a post. Are you THAT dull?

"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"
-Donald Trump

The ONLY "fight like hell" to prevent an electoral vote within HOURS of the electoral vote would be physical confrontation and interference. There is NO legal "fight" that could have taken place after his speech that would change the vote.
When you tell your followers to take action, and the ONLY action is physical interference or confrontation, then you are telling your followers to participate in physical confrontation and interference.

OK, now prove your claim that he did not incite insurrection.
Tell us what his words "actually" meant.

Whatever you say Rob.

No ya don't loser. I said YOU show us proof and back that proof up. Not some link to your biased propaganda. You claim Trump lied over 31,000 times now back your claim up or be labeled the liar we all know you to be. Come on, list each lie followed by its proof.

Right by the playbook. Repeat your lie until someone, ANYONE belives it. Then you can call it a truth.

Except you are not bright enough to realize it makes EVERY claim you have ever made here bullshit, as you have not and cannot prove ANY of them.
PROVE you own a house but live elsewhere so your mom can live in YOUR house.
PROVE you are a "professional driver" because you delivered pizzas.
PROVE you got a degree in biology with extensive study in anatomy.
PROVE three different doctors told you bones are not innervated.
PROVE you can actually live on your own but always live in another family member's house because you WANT to.
PROVE you even got within a mile of Camp Ripley, that you claim you deemed "Safe biologically" without knowing it was loaded with PFAs.

Or better yet, stop being so dumb as to destroy your own arguments by demanding from others what you yourself are completely unable to provide.

At least make SOME effort to not repeatedly portray yourself the fool .

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"
-Donald Trump

Is not...

Your biased interpretation is not fact...

Now show me where he said what you falsely claim he did...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Right by the playbook. Repeat your lie until someone, ANYONE belives it. Then you can call it a truth.

Except you are not bright enough to realize it makes EVERY claim you have ever made here bullshit, as you have not and cannot prove ANY of them.
PROVE you own a house but live elsewhere so your mom can live in YOUR house.
PROVE you are a "professional driver" because you delivered pizzas.
PROVE you got a degree in biology with extensive study in anatomy.
PROVE three different doctors told you bones are not innervated.
PROVE you can actually live on your own but always live in another family member's house because you WANT to.
PROVE you even got within a mile of Camp Ripley, that you claim you deemed "Safe biologically" without knowing it was loaded with PFAs.

Or better yet, stop being so dumb as to destroy your own arguments by demanding from others what you yourself are completely unable to provide.

At least make SOME effort to not repeatedly portray yourself the fool .

Right by your playbook. Try to flip it around now.

So, you aren't able to list all his lies and back those claims up with proof. That means you are a liar. That makes you the biggest liar on here. 31,000+ lies.

 

[Old_Slapper]

I'm not sure what that means, or has to do with anyhting. Are you suggesting that being married with kids or being unmarried with no kids, or maybe being unmarried with kids makes one "better"?
Which of those people I listed is "better", and why?


Please explain how I am "spinning" things by introducing facts as a challenge to beliefs. You said there is scientific proof of a higher being. I ask for you to share the proof.
How is that "spin"? Is there proof, or not?

So they are Mormons but hey are NOT Mormons since they don't fit the definition you want them to?
I'll debate religion all day long. How much time did you spend in seminary?

"there is more proof of there being a higher being than there not being one"
Repetition doesn't make proof. Please show me this "more proof" of said "higher being" that created all that is.
I'm a fan of science.
A warning: I don't accept the "It's just not possible to have all this WITHOUT a higher being having created it" line as proof.

That is nothing but spin to avoid answering a direct question. I'll try again:
You want government to rule based on YOUR religion or beliefs. Would you be OK with our government ruling based on someone ELSE'S religion?
How would you feel if eating pork was made illegal because it doesn't please a god other than your own?
How would you feel if practicing your religion was simply outlawed?
Please answer without trying to spin to a strawman.


That's a good question. I didn't know being Haitian means you are Republican by default.
If they can only be Republican, then why would they even NEED to be Republican. If there is only one party, then no party is necessary,
Regardless, what is the reason he wants them to stay at Gitmo?

I don't think I need to explain your situation and how there are differences. You would just argue with it anyways and prove the point.

The fact you are arguing that a FLDS is the same as and LDS proves what we have all been saying. You will not admit you were wrong. You just want to argue just to argue. I'm sure you have heard this many times before, and not just in this forum. Take a trip to one of their churches and tell them how you believe they are both Mormons. The first thing is, Mormons, not Fundamentalist Mormons, don't like to be called Mormons. LDS, maybe, but not Mormons. But I'm sure you knew that, after stating you know a lot quite a lot about religions. I would like to ask if you believe Mormons are Christians, but you would just Google it before answering it.

Would I be okay with a president who has a different belief than my own?
First off, I didn't spin anything off it. But, I will answer you idiotic question, because it appears you can't think outside your argumentative box and simply figure it out on your own. Trump is Catholic. I am not. what does that tell you?

How Would I feel If a president pushed a law that did allow us to eat bacon:
This wouldn't happen because the courts would not allow it. Government pushing their religion onto the people is against the constitution. However, I will play your stupid 4th grade game. If this was to happen, that would mean that the people voted for it. That means the US is going to crap because the people are allowing the government to force their religion onto us.

On a flip side of this, did you know this is actually happening in California? Newsom is attacking all the meat producers by forcing them to pay more taxes due to the greenhouse gasses their farms are omitting. They actually get audited by the CARB. So, I know you and all the ignorant dems out there will vote him into office so he can share all of his great ideas.

How would I feel if my religion was outlawed?:
That has to be the most childish question, for an argument, I have ever heard from an adult. Take a minute and think about that. Think about the Constitution and what the 1st amendment says about this. THEN, think what the odds of the government actually shutting down a Christian religion would be. Due to the first amendment, they just forced a school to allow a satin worshiping club.

HOWEVER..., I will, again, entertain this 4th grade game. If they did, I would still practice it, but not openly.

Now, back at you. How would you feel if the government outlawed worshiping God? I know you don't believe in him, but what if they did?

Haiti has been ruled by libral leaders for decades. They ran the country into the ground. Now, majority of the Haitians will not ever vote for a democrat and they see how the democrats here are going down the same road the Haiti leaders.

Biden will not say why he wants to send them all to Guantanamo. The only response from his admin is, "To hold them there until they are processed." Well, why not do that to all the immigrants? They just say it's because there are too many of the others. The dumbest response ever! But, you dems appear to be quite comfortable with that response.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Is not...
View attachment 57428
Your biased interpretation is not fact...

Now show me where he said what you falsely claim he did...

So you are unable to explain what "fight like hell" means when the ONLY fight that could do anything is physical confrontation or interference, yet you somehow "know" that Trump wasn't telling people to actually "fight like hell".
Your opinion, beliefs, and what you "know" aren't facts. So, tell us what he ACTAULLY meant when he told his sycophants to "fight like hell" to stop the election hours before the election was to occur.

If you can't explain what they really meant, then the only meaning that can be applied is the literal one.
And the literal one is a physical confrontation or interference.

Right by your playbook. Try to flip it around now.

So, you aren't able to list all his lies and back those claims up with proof. That means you are a liar. That makes you the biggest liar on here. 31,000+ lies.

I gave you direct access to them. Given your limited intelligence, I'll explain to you that it's not possible to post more than 10,000 words, much less 10,000 LIES on a post here.
If you think the database file with the lies plus the explanation of why they are lies is somehow not real, it might explain why you think you know more than medical science about bone innervation, why you think mathematics got averages wrong, why you think you know definitions better than the OED, why you think electrical engineers are wrong about what "bridges" are in a circuit, and how they also are confused in thinking mono maps have only one output.

The things that you "know" without having ANY ability to prove seem limitless.

I don't think I need to explain your situation and how there are differences. You would just argue with it anyways and prove the point.

The differences are obvious and not the point. I am asking which situation you think makes a person "better" at analyzing things and reaching conclusions, and why. You brought up a living situation in reference to "narrow views", suggesting it somehow limits capabilities.
Which living situation makes a person more capable or better, is all I am asking you.

The fact you are arguing that a FLDS is the same as and LDS proves what we have all been saying. You will not admit you were wrong. You just want to argue just to argue. I'm sure you have heard this many times before, and not just in this forum. Take a trip to one of their churches and tell them how you believe they are both Mormons. The first thing is, Mormons, not Fundamentalist Mormons, don't like to be called Mormons. LDS, maybe, but not Mormons. But I'm sure you knew that, after stating you know a lot quite a lot about religions. I would like to ask if you believe Mormons are Christians, but you would just Google it before answering it.

Are Mormon fundamentalists Mormons, or not? Are Roman Catholics Catholics or not? How about Byzantine Catholics? Still Catholics? How about Protestants? Catholic or not?
Mormons are Christians, and generally follow Catholicism, but also Protestantism. How much time did you spend in seminary?

Would I be okay with a president who has a different belief than my own?

I didn;lt ask if you would follow a president of a different religious belief. I asked if you would be OK with laws created around a religious belief that was contrary to your own.
I used such examples as women being forced to wear a burka even if they are Catholic, or people being denied the right to eat pork even if they practice no religion at all.

How Would I feel If a president pushed a law that did allow us to eat bacon:

This is where you are incorrect. The courts have allowed PLENTY of laws that were based directly in a religious belief. A simple example was outlawing same-*** marriage because someone's religion didn't like it.
How about "Blue laws" that prevent sales of certain goods on Sunday? Yeah, those are very real, and still in practice: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/blue-laws-by-state
Hmmm, why SUNDAY? With your religious background, I hope you can figure it out.
Laws against adultery existed because of what? RELIGION.

So, go ahead and play the 4th grade game. Tell me why it's OK to have those laws that are based on canons of Christianity. I'm all ears.

On a flip side of this, did you know this is actually happening in California? Newsom is attacking all the meat producers by forcing them to pay more taxes due to the greenhouse gasses their farms are omitting. They actually get audited by the CARB. So, I know you and all the ignorant dems out there will vote him into office so he can share all of his great ideas.

That sounds like a scientific thing. If it was the production of paper plates to eat the hamburgers from producing those gasses, would it be OK to expect some type of monetary balance?
Was it OK or bad to make companies that polluted the land clean up their mess?
Those cows are not around just because of natural process. They are being produced and farmed as a HUGE commodity. Welcome to the cost of doing business.

How would I feel if my religion was outlawed?:

Childish? Try visiting Communist China or 40 other where the practice of religion is outlawed.
We already HAVE laws that are directly based on the beliefs of Christians. To think it's not possible to have the script flipped is foolish, and that's exactly how sh*t happens.
For f*ck sake, they have made it illegal for a woman to do what she wants with her own body. So much for the 14th Amendment. Why do you think the 1st Amendment is safe?

HOWEVER..., I will, again, entertain this 4th grade game. If they did, I would still practice it, but not openly.

Now, back at you. How would you feel if the government outlawed worshiping God? I know you don't believe in him, but what if they did?

I would be 10,000% against it, and I have already said I am against even the IDEA of it. Religion and government. Ne'er the twain shall meet.

Haiti has been ruled by libral leaders for decades.

I thought they were more an authoritarian regime, and remember many years back hearing about much of the civil unrest due to their leadership. Was it Aristede who got overthrown or did the overthrow after the US had to step in and get them back to a voting democracy?
So are they a democracy now, or a regime?
You mention democrats here are going down the same road. Trump has basically said he would be a dictator if elected again. Does that mean the Democrats in Haiti do NOT want to be dictators?

Biden will not say why he wants to send them all to Guantanamo.

From what I read, this has to do with people who are declaring a legitimate reason of fear for emigrating, not for ones sneaking over the border. If he has not given a reason, then I'm not sure why you are asking me.
A logical look at it says that Gitmo is a secure and safe facility. Maybe it's a way of protecting them until their legitimacy is confirmed?
"you dems appear to be quite comfortable with that response" I'm not sure what this means.
Was a poll taken to check how the Dems feel about his response? if so, I'd be interested in it. That's a pretty narrow subject to spend time creating, distributing, and tabulating the results on. But I'm interested.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

So you are unable to explain what "fight like hell" means

I don't have to explain...you made a claim that you're unable to backup with fact...so instead of admitting that...you're deflecting by trying to make me explain your false statement...

That's a dishonest method of "debating"...but it's the same tactic you use repeatedly to continue arguing...

And the use of that tactic just shows you're unable to have even the most basic of conversations about anything that doesn't reaffirm your biases...

 

[Old_Slapper]

Seems like all the illegals stuffed in airports are causing disease outbreaks spreading through the airports like measles. Perfect time for us to need that WHO pandemic treaty huh? That way they can just disease us from foreign countries and take care of the diseases under emergency, that we pay for, and that we'll lose our medical and possibly freedom of travel rights over. More security state.

Biden didn't care about the border during COVID, so why do it for measles. His first day in office was getting rid of all the Trump area border laws.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

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[Eggs 5,000+ posts]