Current events discussion

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

So the definition YOU provided to support your argument is not correct and you only realized that after you tried to use it?

Nope it's 100% correct...what you think it means is 100% incorrect...but you also believe whatever the party tells you...so your struggles make sense

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

See, this is what the left does. They will make statements out of pure IGNORANCE and people will follow them blindly.

I hope you choke on the better America that is coming.

That doesn't answer the question of why you declared Camp Ripley "biologically safe" and then it was found to be loaded with PFAs from decades prior to your "evaluation".

There is no "ignorance" there. You told me you had deemed it safe and even offered a "you're welcome" for your hard work. A quick info search showed that it is far from biologically safe.

So instead of proclaiming my "ignorance" and thinking you've somehow "won" the discussion, speak to those two facts.
Tell us what is "ignorant" about them.

Here is a video that will explain our inflation right now. This guys in nonpartisan. He just explains what's currently going on in with the economy and taxes.

No link included or embedded?

At about 7:30 is when he gets into more details about inflation.

The law was the Remain in Mexico law. Before, immigrants were held at the border while they wait for a court date to claim they are here to seek asylum. Trump made the Remain In Mexico law to keep the immigrants in Mexico until their court date.

The "remain in Mexico law"? What is the CFR for that?
If he was sending them back, why did deportations rise by 400% under Biden and not under Trump, even after the major surge in 2019?

There is no scientific proof that resurrection is real or not. There is evidence to support both sides. At the end of the day, the only person who knows, for a 100% fact, is the person it happened to. Unfortunately, there is no solid way for them to prove their statement to be true.

There is no scientific proof for, and plenty against. That means someone who claims it happened must prove it happened. That's what science is about: proofs, not beliefs.
And...how would a person know they suffered brain death and then came back to life without medical instrumentation to show it?

This argument has been brought up before. An embryo is dependent form, and so is and infant. There is no way an infant will survive without a "host."

An embryo is not an infant. It is a ***** until it is born.
By "independent" we are talking about being able to not immediately die without being attached to the host. i.e. no breathing tube/feeding tube/incubator, etc.
A healthy baby can survive without the host and without life support. A ***** cannot.

Did you know you can be arrested for going out and destroying fertilized chicken eggs where the chick is almost developed in the egg? You will be arrested for animal cruelty. Why is it okay to kill an human embryo, but not a chicken embryo?

I am interested in seeing that law, given the daily destruction of untold amounts of fertilized eggs in poultry farms, or fertilized eggs that get mixed in with unfertilized ones for sale.
There are a lot of businesses in BIG trouble.

I believe a woman, or any person, has the right to do what they want with their body. However, the embryo, or even a developed ***** is not entirely her body. It is the body of another living being. What's to stop people from saying their newborn is a major stress on my mind and body. I believe I have a right to terminate it. It can't live on it's own. The authorities and media are going to stress me out more if I give it up for adoption. I'll do it without anyone knowing. 20 years ago, 90% of the people thought abortions were cruel and disgusting. Now it's celebrated as a form of birth control. Scientifically speaking, it is a human baby.

So they have a right to privacy and autonomy until something attached itself to them? What if they didn't WANT the zygote to attach to the uterine wall, but it did anyway?
Are they allowed to eject the unwanted parasite?
Sure, it's how reproduction works, but it's also how disease works. I may not WANT that virus to get in me and attach, but it does. Do I not have a right to try to get rid of it?

You used the birth control argument already, but statistics show it's a fallacy. Why cling to a fallacy to support your beliefs?

The biggest issue with abortion, isn't abortion. It's the term at which abortion is still legal. Many democrats believe abortion should be legal up to the point of cutting the umbilical cord. Yes, that is a big thing.

I'm pretty confident that the right-to-life people are not just trying to stop late-term abortion, but abortion PERIOD.

Do some research on what republicans actually believe. We believe that abortion is here to stay. We just want there to be limits and boundaries. No lawmaker will come out and give boundaries or limits. They won't even condone abortion being legal to the point of cutting the umbilical cord.

If that is true, then why the unending GOP push to overturn Roe v Wade? Why the endless picketing outside of Planned Parenthood and doctor's offices? Why the blowing up of offices and the =murder of docs who do it?
That doesn't seem like acceptance to me.

I didn't say the government had to force morals onto us. I was saying they have to have morals when governing us.

Once again, morality is not the job of government. Nor is religion.

As for God being a part of govern, I do believe a politician should govern under the fear of a higher power. Therefore, their decisions will be more for the good of the people and not for their own personal gain. Otherwise, what's to keep them from going off the rails.

So you want religion to shape our government. Which religion is the "correct" one?
Would you you be comfortable if it was not the correct one and you had to follow laws that went against your "correct" religion?

In the US, we have a freedom of religion. This freedom also states that the government cannot intervene with religions, unless it for safety issues. In most religions, abortions are not allowed and some don't allow birth control.

Yes, but it also means laws cannot be made requiring us to follow a specific religion or any religion at all.
If a law is made based on a rule of religion (for example, no adultery) isn't that forcing someone to act based on a religion they might not even believe in?
Not a fan, to be honest.

This brings me to the republicans voting against birth control. It wasn't birth control that they were voting against. They were voting against the taxpayers having to pay for the birth control. This low infringes upon the religious groups that don't allow birth control and it infringes upon us who don't believe we should be FORCED to pay for people who want to have ***.

No, I'm afraid that's not what the bill was about.
You can read the bill yourself, but here is a synopsis:
"This bill requires pharmacies to comply with certain rules related to ensuring access to contraceptives.

Specifically, pharmacies must provide without delay a customer with any contraceptive or related medication that is in stock. If the contraceptive is not in stock, the pharmacy must immediately inform the customer and either order the contraceptive or refer the customer to a pharmacy that has it in stock. Laws in some states provide pharmacists with the right to refuse to dispense contraceptive-related drugs on religious or conscience grounds.

Pharmacies may refuse to provide a contraceptive to a customer (1) if the customer lacks a valid prescription for a prescription contraceptive or is unable to pay for the contraceptive, or (2) based on a pharmacy employee's professional clinical judgment."

Nope it's 100% correct...what you think it means is 100% incorrect...but you also believe whatever the party tells you...so your struggles make sense

OK Good.
So, procreation is when a woman carries a ***** and it grows in her body.
When you deny her the right to stop that growth if she wants, you are forcing her to allow it to continue.
There is no argument, as there are only two possible options: It continues to grow as you demand, or she aborts it.
Like a tree that you want to cut down but the HOA denies your request. You are forced to let it live and grow.

If she WANTS to abort and you won't allow that, then you are FORCING her to keep it growing in her body.
You are forcing her to procreate, not allowing her to abort.
The only two options for her.

Thank you for providing the very definition that proves your beliefs are incorrect.

BTW - What's with all the fruity little emojis? Are you a girl in 7th grade pretending to be an adult dude on a forum?

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Holy shit....does anybody actually read all that crap ....the longer it is the more convincing right?? fuggin idiot

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That doesn't answer the question of why you declared Camp Ripley "biologically safe" and then it was found to be loaded with PFAs from decades prior to your "evaluation".

As I told you before and you apparently forgot, I was not there for water. I stand by my statement that you speak out of ignorance.

There is no "ignorance" there. You told me you had deemed it safe and even offered a "you're welcome" for your hard work. A quick info search showed that it is far from biologically safe.

More ignorance.

So instead of proclaiming my "ignorance" and thinking you've somehow "won" the discussion, speak to those two facts.
Tell us what is "ignorant" about them.

You are ignorant because you lack the information to speak on the subject.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Holy shit....does anybody actually read all that crap ....the longer it is the more convincing right?? fuggin idiot

He's trying to keep his post count down so he doesn't have wait to tell us how "right" he is

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

As I told you before and you apparently forgot, I was not there for water. I stand by my statement that you speak out of ignorance.

Hmmm, it seems you said you deemed it safe biologically. I see nothing about "except for the water and the dirt" in there.
What did you do, check the toilet seats for ecoli?

More ignorance.

Oh? Pretty sure this is what YOU said. Or was it the frog in your pocket doing the typing?

"deemed safe biologically" except for the land and the water, it seems.
But who cares about water for safety testing on a base where people live and train?
"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

You are ignorant because you lack the information to speak on the subject.

Here's the information, in a nutshell. You congratulated yourself on deeming Camp Ripley "safe biologically", and then they found out it was unsafe biologically.
Good work.

"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

Now go ahead and tell me what information I am lacking.
Don't give me that "top secret" bullsh*t you tried last time, or warn me that I shouldn't be looking at info about Ripley.
Just fess up and say you either f*cked up, or you're completely full of sh*t.

He's trying to keep his post count down so he doesn't have wait to tell us how "right" he is

It IS kind of funny that I get a post limit, but a guy who tells a moderator to go f*ck himself, and another one who tells people to commit ******* are free to post as much as they want.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

It IS kind of funny that I get a post limit, but a guy who tells a moderator to go f*ck himself, and another one who tells people to commit ******* are free to post as much as they want

Nope......I get only 10 posts same as everyone else....got any more lies for us?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

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Hmmm, it seems you said you deemed it safe biologically. I see nothing about "except for the water and the dirt" in there.
What did you do, check the toilet seats for ecoli?

Oh? Pretty sure this is what YOU said. Or was it the frog in your pocket doing the typing?
View attachment 57323
"deemed safe biologically" except for the land and the water, it seems.
But who cares about water for safety testing on a base where people live and train?
"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

Here's the information, in a nutshell. You congratulated yourself on deeming Camp Ripley "safe biologically", and then they found out it was unsafe biologically.
Good work.
View attachment 57324

"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

Nowm go ahead and tell me what information I am lacking.
Don;t give me that "top secret" bullsh*t you tried last time, or warn me that I shouldn't be looking at info about Ripley.
Just fess up and say you either f*cked up, or you're completely full of sh*t.



It IS kind of funny that I get a post limit, but a guy who tells a moderator to go f*ck himself, and another one who tells people to commit ******* are free to post as much as they want.

This is exactly what I mean. You are an ignorant idiot. Look how triggered you are when you are denied information. I told your ignorant, cry baby *** several times I was not there for water. They test their own water. YOU can go on not having all the information and I hope not having the information gives you a stroke.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Woah,Hillary didnt tell people to rush the capitol and take back what he lost,Trump did so you cant really compare the two,but nice try though

WOW...
Talking about repeating leftist news propaganda. Like mentioned earlier, please provide any audio recording, transcript, video, or anything to support your claim? How about anything that shows he ordered the riot?

 

[Old_Slapper]

So what happens when they start locking political dissidents up? I mean they have with Jan 6th. **** the FBI and CIA for Jan 6th. At what punishment do people stop obeying? Because if you let them do this, then they will do the next step, and the next step, and it's going to be people dying in mass in the end. At what point does it become too far, where what you're trying to save by obeying becomes worth losing due to the heinous activity of the gov? Some people, like the average Germans who ran the holocaust camps never say no, this is too far. There's a ton of people like that in this country too who will help you die, because they are monsters or cowards.

They will continue to do what they do as long as the media doesn't expose it. Take the J6 leaked video that shows the "rioter" being escorted around the capital. Nope, you all you hear is how deadly the riot was and how so many people died because of it. You won't hear the truth. Only what they are told to tell you.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

WOW...
Talking about repeating leftist news propaganda. Like mentioned earlier, please provide any audio recording, transcript, video, or anything to support your claim? How about anything that shows he ordered the riot?

Im still waiting also for @RobGMN to show us evidence of Trump saying "you need to fight your country....." still nothing, i wonder why? hmmm strange...anybody have a screen shot of that by chance?

 

[Old_Slapper]

Here's proof that Trump insighted the riot. Just look at this video of his supporters pushing for violence and even threating Joe's life. It's just scary. Why hasn't Trump and all of these supporters been arrested?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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Hmmm, it seems you said you deemed it safe biologically. I see nothing about "except for the water and the dirt" in there.
What did you do, check the toilet seats for ecoli?

Oh? Pretty sure this is what YOU said. Or was it the frog in your pocket doing the typing?
View attachment 57323
"deemed safe biologically" except for the land and the water, it seems.
But who cares about water for safety testing on a base where people live and train?
"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

Here's the information, in a nutshell. You congratulated yourself on deeming Camp Ripley "safe biologically", and then they found out it was unsafe biologically.
Good work.
View attachment 57324

"National Guard officials began looking into the historic use of PFAS-containing foam at Camp Ripley in 2019, Kruse said. He said they identified eight areas within the camp where foam might have been stored or used in training.

Testing revealed that one of the sites had PFAS-contaminated soil. Kruse said. Seven had groundwater with PFAS levels higher than a level thought to be safe for vulnerable populations, including infants."

Now go ahead and tell me what information I am lacking.
Don't give me that "top secret" bullsh*t you tried last time, or warn me that I shouldn't be looking at info about Ripley.
Just fess up and say you either f*cked up, or you're completely full of sh*t.



It IS kind of funny that I get a post limit, but a guy who tells a moderator to go f*ck himself, and another one who tells people to commit ******* are free to post as much as they want.

I have the same post limit too, it was announced by admin, I think it got applied to every basic member. You're primarily the reason we have a post limit in the first place, so if you'd shut the **** up, the limiter would probably get removed, or at least would've never been put into place in the first place. You're definitely the main ******* that starts infinite useless and petty arguments, and seem to be solely on this site to argue like a political crusader. We all talk shit and have fun or whatever but everything about you seems dishonest, not genuine, you completely misrepresent what people say to attack their character and try to make yourself and others appear a way that both are not. You're full of lies and deception.

News edit to save post count:

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Report: Trump Did Propose 10,000 National Guard Troops on January 6th

One of the long-standing unanswered questions from the January 6th riot has been why the Capitol was so poorly prepared and defended on that day. A newly released transcript has caused a firestorm …

jonathanturley.org

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

This is exactly what I mean. You are an ignorant idiot. Look how triggered you are when you are denied information. I told your ignorant, cry baby *** several times I was not there for water. They test their own water. YOU can go on not having all the information and I hope not having the information gives you a stroke.

How can you have deemed it "safe biologically" if you didn't even do all the testing?
That's like the engine installer at Toyota saying the car is ready to drive when the tires aren't even on.

So, you lied about it being "safe biologically" because you actually had NO idea if it was.
And it wasn't. Good job.

WOW...
Talking about repeating leftist news propaganda. Like mentioned earlier, please provide any audio recording, transcript, video, or anything to support your claim? How about anything that shows he ordered the riot?

Show us anything that proves Manson ordered his flock to kill people. Show us where
It is entirely possible to get people to act merely through suggestion and inference. To deny that Trump could exert such influence over people is either a complete lie, utter ignorance, or denial.
Even the insurrectionists point to his culpability in the events of the day.

For f*ck sake, his sycophants are STILL screaming that the vote was stolen, simply because he started claiming "voter fraud" before he was ever elected.
ZERO proof at all, but they believe it because HE does.
Gimme a break.

Im still waiting also for @RobGMN to show us evidence of Trump saying "you need to fight your country....." still nothing, i wonder why? hmmm strange...anybody have a screen shot of that by chance?

Yeah, when he told them to "fight like hell" and "we won;t take it anymore" and continued to spew the bullsh* about the "stolen" vote, what he REALLY meant was "write your congresspeople a serious letter, and tell them you are unhappy I lost". And he expected them to write it during his rally and hand-deliver it at the Capitol building.

If you truly believe Trump had no culpability that day, you're a f*cking moron, in denial, or so blinded by your love for that piece of sh*t you can't even see daylight.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I have the same post limit too, it was announced by admin, I think it got applied to every basic member. You're primarily the reason we have a post limit in the first place, so if you'd shut the **** up, the limiter would probably get removed, or at least would've never been put into place in the first place. You're definitely the main ******* that starts infinite useless and petty arguments, and seem to be solely on this site to argue like a political crusader. We all talk shit and have fun or whatever but everything about you seems dishonest, not genuine, you completely misrepresent what people say to attack their character and try to make yourself and others appear a way that both are not. You're full of lies and deception.

News edit to save post count:

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Report: Trump Did Propose 10,000 National Guard Troops on January 6th

One of the long-standing unanswered questions from the January 6th riot has been why the Capitol was so poorly prepared and defended on that day. A newly released transcript has caused a firestorm …

jonathanturley.org

Hmmm, let's take a count on who here has told someone to commit *******.
I know at least you and Thx have.

Let's take a count on who has threatened violence on other members. I know Thx has, maybe Sluggo too?

Let's take a count on who has posted innumerable lies that are easily debunked. I know you and Thx sure have.
FFS, you post that "Tyler Durden" bullsh*t so much, it'd be no surprise if you were getting paid to.
At least then you could claim you have a job.

And you think I'M the problem here?
You think you have some special right to lie without being questioned? To tell people to commit *******? To toss insults but not get insulted back?
Sorry chump, you don't.
You wanna play here, you get what you give.
Don't ever forget that. You're not a special snowflake. Never will be.