Current events discussion

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Come on guy! You took a Leftwing headline and stated it as being ammo against Trump. If you listen to the entire conversation, you will see that they were not talking directly about Trump. They were talking about any president. And the attorney was stating what the law is. And the law states a president can do that and get away with it only if the senate allows them to. He was stating the law. In other words, Biden could do the same thing.

Guys, please stop trying to bash someone before you sit back and look at the big picture.

I've looked and listened to his BS so much it makes me want to puke, tired of being subjected to the vile vitriol coming out of his mouth on a regular basis!

If I'd acted like him, said things like he does back in the day when my father was alive, that bar of soap for my mouth would have been shoved so far in down my throat (by my very, very republican retired bird Col father) that I would be farting bubbles!

 

[Old_Slapper]

Again, I ask what has he done that makes him a bad president and/or worse than what you just voted for? You say he was such an evil person. I'm asking for factual examples that makes him the worse choice for President.

Let me ask you this... if Biden and Trump run again, who would you vote for?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Come on guy! You took a Leftwing headline and stated it as being ammo against Trump. If you listen to the entire conversation, you will see that they were not talking directly about Trump. They were talking about any president. And the attorney was stating what the law is. And the law states a president can do that and get away with it only if the senate allows them to. He was stating the law. In other words, Biden could do the same thing.

Guys, please stop trying to bash someone before you sit back and look at the big picture.

You think somehow this isn't a gotcha and an massive L in the loss column for Trump because he thinks any POTUS can assassinate their political opponents? I'm guessing you didn't think that through before you posted it.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

First question answered in spades.

Historically, he is the FIRST President to:
1. Complete his term and expand the deficit each year
2. Keep the debt to GDP ratio above 100%
3. Have the highest yearly budget deficit
4. Most new jobless claims in a single term
5. Most money added to the national debt
6. Signed into law the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), a $1.9 TRILLION tax bill favoring corporations and wealthy Americans
7. Largest single day point drop in the history of the Dow Jones as a direct result of his policies
8. To lose jobs during his Presidency in almost a century
9. First major party candidate in half a century to lose the popular vote twice
10. Longest government shutdown in history while his OWN party controlled both chambers of Congress
11. First President in the history of approval ratings to maintain a net negative approval rating for his entire term
12. First to be impeached, twice
13. First President to have the most indictments, guilty pleas, and criminal convictions of members of his administration
14. First President not to concede an election he verifiably lost
15 First President to attempt a coup
16. First President to not offer transparency and release his tax returns

TRUMP’S OTHER GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS:

17. Flatlined a strong economy even before the pandemic
18. Lost around 300,000 manufacturing jobs as almost 2,000 US manufacturing plants closed because of Trump trade war
19. Managed to increase the trade deficit by 218 BILLION DOLLARS in just four years
20. Wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on golf with much of it lining his own pockets
21. Wasted millions on rebranding part of the Air Force to the likings of Star Trek
22. Wasted millions on a 50 mile Mexican/US border wall that Mexico NEVER agreed to pay for.

And that doesn't account for the multitude of other things in the last year or so that I stopped logging when I stopped keeping track

Second question - ANYONE other than Trump, absolutely anyone.

Liz Cheney comes to mind, a true American patriot!

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The Russian thing came out as false. It actually turned out that the democrats new it was false, but tried to push it any ways. Read the Steele Dossier report.

I have. Unfortunately, the Russian thing isn't false. It's crazy so much stuff has come out demonstrating the link between Russia and Trump and yet Team Trump is somehow blissfully unaware that this intel exists. Must not be getting into their twitter feeds. There is a reason a bunch of lawyers, former prosecutors and legislators (aka Mitch McConnell's Senate) held a trial minus witnesses. Can you imagine if a Dem controlled Senate held a Hunter Biden Trial minus witnesses? The right would lose their minds. Mitch probably didn't want Paul Manafort testifying:

US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016

WASHINGTON (AP) — It was one of the more tantalizing, yet unresolved, questions of the investigation into possible connections between Russia and Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign: Why was a business associate of campaign chairman Paul Manafort given internal polling data — and what did he d

apnews.com

Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians

Mr Manafort has previously denied sharing polling data with suspected Russian spy Konstantin Kilimnik

www.the-independent.com

Exclusive: Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset

Trump's former campaign chair tells Insider he shared polling data with longtime business associate Konstantin Kilimnik to help secure business deals.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

First question answered in spades.

Historically, he is the FIRST President to:
1. Complete his term and expand the deficit each year
2. Keep the debt to GDP ratio above 100%
3. Have the highest yearly budget deficit
4. Most new jobless claims in a single term
5. Most money added to the national debt
6. Signed into law the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), a $1.9 TRILLION tax bill favoring corporations and wealthy Americans
7. Largest single day point drop in the history of the Dow Jones as a direct result of his policies
8. To lose jobs during his Presidency in almost a century
9. First major party candidate in half a century to lose the popular vote twice
10. Longest government shutdown in history while his OWN party controlled both chambers of Congress
11. First President in the history of approval ratings to maintain a net negative approval rating for his entire term
12. First to be impeached, twice
13. First President to have the most indictments, guilty pleas, and criminal convictions of members of his administration
14. First President not to concede an election he verifiably lost
15 First President to attempt a coup
16. First President to not offer transparency and release his tax returns

TRUMP’S OTHER GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS:

17. Flatlined a strong economy even before the pandemic
18. Lost around 300,000 manufacturing jobs as almost 2,000 US manufacturing plants closed because of Trump trade war
19. Managed to increase the trade deficit by 218 BILLION DOLLARS in just four years
20. Wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on golf with much of it lining his own pockets
21. Wasted millions on rebranding part of the Air Force to the likings of Star Trek
22. Wasted millions on a 50 mile Mexican/US border wall that Mexico NEVER agreed to pay for.

And that doesn't account for the multitude of other things in the last year or so that I stopped logging when I stopped keeping track

Second question - ANYONE other than Trump, absolutely anyone.

Liz Cheney comes to mind, a true American patriot!

I'd give Trump a pass on a bunch of those, especially the debt/deficit stuff. That sh!tball started rolling downhill long before Trump took office. And you can't hang the massive jobs losses on Trump, given it was the Pandemic that caused that. I do think "Coup" is a little strong for what Trump attempted to do.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

I'd give Trump a pass on a bunch of those, especially the debt/deficit stuff. That sh!tball started rolling downhill long before Trump took office. And you can't hang the massive jobs losses on Trump, given it was the Pandemic that caused that. I do think "Coup" is a little strong for what Trump attempted to do.

Granted, but you can hang the atociouse job he did in addressing the pandemic in the first place, just inject bleach! not my words mind you, all policies aside, he is an awful human being. A traitor at best.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

even before the pandemic. Life was much easier.

Also, during the pandemic, Trump closed the air travel. He got pushback for acting too hastily. 3 months later, the country was shut down by the democrats.

Trump also claimed that the virus came from China. Fauci emails prove Trump was right. Did you all hear about the China COVID lab that was found in central California last summer? Yes, that was true. It was actually found in 2022, but the info was kept a secret.

You guys have to fact check yourselves. You know the media is always lying and social media is even worse. A quick fact check only takes a minute or two.

What really happened is a Chinese lab in Central Cali distributed Covid test kits without FDA authorization and it was all over the news.

Arrest Made in Central California Bio-Lab Investigation

Jia Bei Zhu, aka Jesse Zhu, aka Qiang He, aka David He, 62, a citizen of China who formerly resided in Clovis, was arrested today on a criminal complaint for manufacturing and distributing misbranded medical devices in violation of the federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) and for making...

www.justice.gov

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Granted, but you can hang the atociouse job he did in addressing the pandemic in the first place, just inject bleach! not my words mind you, all policies aside, he is an awful human being. A traitor at best.

I don't think it would have been any better/worse if somebody else was in office. Maybe the culture war over masks wouldn't have been as bad, but how many people really injected bleach or took it seriously. And if somebody did inject bleach, then the gene pool is better of without them.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

You guys have to fact check yourselves. You know the media is always lying and social media is even worse. A quick fact check only takes a minute or two.

What really happened is a Chinese lab in Central Cali distributed Covid test kits without FDA authorization and it was all over the news.

Arrest Made in Central California Bio-Lab Investigation

Jia Bei Zhu, aka Jesse Zhu, aka Qiang He, aka David He, 62, a citizen of China who formerly resided in Clovis, was arrested today on a criminal complaint for manufacturing and distributing misbranded medical devices in violation of the federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) and for making...

www.justice.gov

Nothing matters as to how or why when or who, What matters is how it was handled once they knew (which was well before we did) and that was a complete failure! When you catch the flu you go in and get antivirals, you don't try to find the person who gave it to you, pointless.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Again, I ask what has he done that makes him a bad president and/or worse than what you just voted for? You say he was such an evil person. I'm asking for factual examples that makes him the worse choice for President.

Let me ask you this... if Biden and Trump run again, who would you vote for?

I vote third party, so.... As I said before given the pandemic, I don't think is grounds for a comparison. I do think if there was no pandemic, that Trump would probably still be in office.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

His administration took viable, credible scientific evidence and espoused theory as to alternative motives and reasons, unproven actual abstract remedies proven unsafe and promoted these instead of actions that would have actually helped. He pandered to a cynical base instead of trusting the science, that is a TOTAL fail. We and the many thousands that perished will never know what could have been, but one thing is clear. As developing nations go, we fared poorly, very poorly and that responsibility lies directly on those in charge of taking care of the situation. He and his administration failed, completely.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

if anyone cares, I was a registered republican for years, a libertarian for years, my brother ran for congress in San Diego on the libertarian ticket too. I've been a registered independent for the last 20 so there's that.

Anyone want to talk about audio?

Stick a fork in me, I'm done!''

 

[HardofWhoring]

After personally witnessing all the corrupt garbage that is taking place, and all the false accusations that were made, what would you do if you were in his shoes? Remember, if your going to show me bad things he has done, make sure it's not worse than the current or previous guy has done.

I'm not upset, I'm just curious. I have yet to find someone who can prove the orange man was worse. Remember, I work for the g-man, so I get to see all the dirt.

Lies and deflecting. I'm not wasting my time engaging in nonsense with people who can't be honest.

 

[HardofWhoring]

The Russian thing came out as false. It actually turned out that the democrats new it was false, but tried to push it any ways. Read the Steele Dossier report.

No it didn't. Lie.

even before the pandemic. Life was much easier.

Also, during the pandemic, Trump closed the air travel. He got pushback for acting too hastily. 3 months later, the country was shut down by the democrats.

Trump also claimed that the virus came from China. Fauci emails prove Trump was right. Did you all hear about the China COVID lab that was found in central California last summer? Yes, that was true. It was actually found in 2022, but the info was kept a secret.

No it wasn't, lie. &
FYI, trump tried to hide covid. Even though it had been going on overseas for over a month, trump had a classified meeting at the white house about it, and those who were invited, didn't have any clue why trump made it classified. They talked about the meeting, and then trump acknowledged it the next day.
His incredibly fragile ego wouldn't let him admit anything was wrong.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.