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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Show everyone here Rob how I tried to put the blame on you for my actions. Please site specifics and facts to back up your claim or it never happened and you are literally here, making another thread in hopes you can continue to argue with people. Yes, argue, you don't debate.

Argument vs Debate:

A debate is formal, deliberate, executed according to an agreed upon set of rules, and a decision is made at the end of the debate. Debates use arguments, but an argument itself is informal, usually unplanned, can get heated, and doesn't always end in a decision.

These are your words, quoted from your post:
“…I let you bait me into responding to you calling into account your living essence.”

Who are you accusing of baiting you? ME.
Had I not “baited” you, you would not have lost control, ignored the moderator/s, gotten banned, and likely gotten the thread closed.

That puts the blame on me for starting the chain of events.

And it’s crappy logic. It’s like blaming McDonalds for your obesity.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

These are your words, quoted from your post:
“…I let you bait me into responding to you calling into account your living essence.”

Who are you accusing of baiting you? ME.
Had I not “baited” you, you would not have lost control, ignored the moderator/s, gotten banned, and likely gotten the thread closed.

That puts the blame on me for starting the chain of events.

And it’s crappy logic. It’s like blaming McDonalds for your obesity.

I understand that you can't help yourself and that you must argue with everyone. The first three words in that quote read "I let you". The fact that you bait everyone is not relevant. Might as well try to blame trees for having leaves or for fish swimming in water. These things are what they are just like you baiting people is who you are. Do you want me to blame you for something? Ok, will do.

Rob, I blame you for ruining my experience on Caraudio.com. I feel you make this place a hostile place to be when you are "debating" with anyone who will interact with you. I am letting the Admins know with this response to you that if it weren't for you making this place hostile I would buy from vendors attached to and on this site. We are on this site to discuss car audio not to argue any and all things with you RobGMN.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I understand that you can't help yourself and that you must argue with everyone. The first three words in that quote read "I let you". The fact that you bait everyone is not relevant. Might as well try to blame trees for having leaves or for fish swimming in water. These things are what they are just like you baiting people is who you are. Do you want me to blame you for something? Ok, will do.

Rob, I blame you for ruining my experience on Caraudio.com. I feel you make this place a hostile place to be when you are "debating" with anyone who will interact with you. I am letting the Admins know with this response to you that if it weren't for you making this place hostile I would buy from vendors attached to and on this site. We are on this site to discuss car audio not to argue any and all things with you RobGMN.

It’s not ally relevant. Without the “bait”, you wouldn’t lose control. The “bait” is where you place the blame for your loss of control.
You are akin to the r*pist (and far too many a right-wing conservative) who blames the victim because she was dressed provocatively.

As for your attempt to virtue-signal the mods into being on you side, it’s just another case of you trying to lay blame on others for your actions. You’re going to punish a vendor because i exercise free speech (to the degree allowed) on this forum?
Interesting.

I suppose you’re one of those people who will refuse to drink a certain beer because of the spokesperson chosen. Or refuse to buy a certain car because someone you don’t like bought one.

And yet you follow Trump and defend his ever move despite the vileness of his character, which he has publicly admitted.
Who knows, maybe a vendor doesn’t WANT your business based on what you have admitted on this forum.

Ever customer is important, but there are some that are just not worth it.
Maybe you’re one.

 

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

It’s not ally relevant. Without the “bait”, you wouldn’t lose control. The “bait” is where you place the blame for your loss of control.
You are akin to the r*pist (and far too many a right-wing conservative) who blames the victim because she was dressed provocatively.

As for your attempt to virtue-signal the mods into being on you side, it’s just another case of you trying to lay blame on others for your actions. You’re going to punish a vendor because i exercise free speech (to the degree allowed) on this forum?
Interesting.

I suppose you’re one of those people who will refuse to drink a certain beer because of the spokesperson chosen. Or refuse to buy a certain car because someone you don’t like bought one.

And yet you follow Trump and defend his ever move despite the vileness of his character, which he has publicly admitted.
Who knows, maybe a vendor doesn’t WANT your business based on what you have admitted on this forum.

Ever customer is important, but there are some that are just not worth it.
Maybe you’re one.

Look how mad you are because I don't care to argue with you. Choosing your words carefully as you liken me to ******, bigots, racist. You even managed to bring politics into this thread and mentioned Trump again. You finish it up by insinuating that I am worthless. All this because I don't care to argue with you. Perhaps it is you who has lost control.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Look how mad you are because I don't care to argue with you. Choosing your words carefully as you liken me to ******, bigots, racist. You even managed to bring politics into this thread and mentioned Trump again. You finish it up by insinuating that I am worthless. All this because I don't care to argue with you. Perhaps it is you who has lost control.

For someone who chooses not to argue with me, you sure are doing a lot of typing here to argue with me.

I use the analogies I use, because they are situations where people like to place blame on others for their own actions. People don’t usually blame others when they’re doing something good. They take the credit for themselves.

You also seem to have a habit of taking possibilities and demanding that they be reality. I said “maybe” you would not be worth it to have as a customer, based on what you’ve admitted here (abusing women; refusing to follow authority; threatening others here with violence). If you think those qualities make you worthless as a customer, then so be it.

Regardless, I’m sure the mods see through your threats to what is really going on: You want your way and will threaten others, and maybe even take action to get it.
If a was still in retail sales, I would take a pass on selling to you. I’ve dealt with customers who made threats when they didn’t get their way.
No thank you.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

For someone who chooses not to argue with me, you sure are doing a lot of typing here to argue with me.

I use the analogies I use, because they are situations where people like to place blame on others for their own actions. People don’t usually blame others when they’re doing something good. They take the credit for themselves.

You also seem to have a habit of taking possibilities and demanding that they be reality. I said “maybe” you would not be worth it to have as a customer, based on what you’ve admitted here (abusing women; refusing to follow authority; threatening others here with violence). If you think those qualities make you worthless as a customer, then so be it.

Regardless, I’m sure the mods see through your threats to what is really going on: You want your way and will threaten others, and maybe even take action to get it.
If a was still in retail sales, I would take a pass on selling to you. I’ve dealt with customers who made threats when they didn’t get their way.
No thank you.

Everyone is on to you and how you speak and what you are trying to do.

I have made no threats, I made statements. I am not buying directly because you are here. Cause and effect.

Why don't you move on.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Everyone is on to you and how you speak and what you are trying to do.

I have made no threats, I made statements. I am not buying directly because you are here. Cause and effect.

Why don't you move on.

Hello? I started the thread.

If you don’t like the thread, and you’re also stating you are taking direct action to hurt the forum, maybe it’s time YOU should move on.

Obviously no benefit to you being here.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hello? I started the thread.

If you don’t like the thread, and you’re also stating you are taking direct action to hurt the forum, maybe it’s time YOU should move on.

Obviously no benefit to you being here.

Oh so you are entitled to be in here... Ok, this thread should last a while with just you in it. Knock yourself out.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Oh so you are entitled to be in here... Ok, this thread should last a while with just you in it. Knock yourself out.

You just asked me to leave a thread that I started in order to debate without people like you who are unable to exhibit self control.
Yes, I am entitled to be in my own thread, lol.

So far in the forum, you have told me twice to commit *******; you have threatened Bobby with physical assault; you have been banned for refusing to follow mod’s orders and not personally attack people; you got a thread shut down for refusing to follow the rules; you have stated you will continue to disregard the rules of the forum; you have stated you will punish the vendors if you don’t get your demands of me leaving the forum.

And you think I’M the problem.
Ironic.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You just asked me to leave a thread that I started in order to debate without people like you who are unable to exhibit self control.
Yes, I am entitled to be in my own thread, lol.

So far in the forum, you have told me twice to commit *******; you have threatened Bobby with physical assault; you have been banned for refusing to follow mod’s orders and not personally attack people; you got a thread shut down for refusing to follow the rules; you have stated you will continue to disregard the rules of the forum; you have stated you will punish the vendors if you don’t get your demands of me leaving the forum.

And you think I’M the problem.
Ironic.

You think you aren't the problem. That is a problem.

How did you talk to me when I talked about your stubby little war hero? Hmm, how did you talk to me, what did you say to me? Yeah, you are innocent of any wrong doing huh?

How many times have you called Buck a Pedo? Yeah, you're innocent huh?

Now you think you can create a thread and continue to talk to people however you like, keep repeating things over and over, act like you are in charge of the obvious. Tell us again, what is your goal here?

That thread was shut down while you were arguing with two other members, not with me. Nice try accepting NO responsibility. Again, we all just selected you to pick on, you are that special.

Also, for the second time, I do what I like. I do not have to follow anyone's "orders". There are rules in place, if I choose to break them I will and have accepted before my choice any repercussions. Understand this Rob, I am grown and I WILL do as I please.

 

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