Winners only.

[Kayge 10+ year member]

It's covered in the 26 page decision the judge handed down.
"Since the beginning of this case, Plaintiffs have argued the right to family integrity is protected by the Due Process Clause of the Constitution, and the government may not separate a parent from his or her child absent a showing the parent is unfit or presents a danger to the child. The first of these arguments is not disputed."

Due process is covered by the 14th Amendment...

Due process also prevents you from being jailed while awaiting trial unless there are exigent circumstances.

i would argue that any parent trying to illegally smuggle their child across a dangerous border passing displays poor judgement and is unfit

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Do ever say anything that isn't either hyperbole or a bold face lie ffs

If we’re talking the law and what actually happened, you don’t get to toss in what you’d like to see or personally opine about it.

For some reason, you conflate what you believe should be the law with what actually is.

Makes for a really weak argument on your part.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

i would argue that any parent trying to illegally smuggle their child across a dangerous border passing displays poor judgement and is unfit

Yes. You could argue that, but having not been able to be an attorney for the defense, your argument doesn’t carry weight.

Do you think if it was a good argument, the defense attorneys might have brought it up?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Title 42 was invoked by Trump in March of 2020.
The CDC operates under the command of the federal government. POTUS is in charge.
Trump was POTUS vin March of 2020.

No it wasn't.

"On March 20, 2020, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued an emergency regulation to implement a specific aspect of U.S. health law. Section 265 of U.S. Code Title 42 permits the Director of the CDC to “prohibit … the introduction” into the United States of individuals when the director believes that “there is serious danger of the introduction of [a communicable] disease into the United States.” The HHS regulation allows any customs officers—which includes officers of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) such as Border Patrol agents—to implement any such order issued by the CDC."

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I am home from work now. RobGMN, I am prepared to listen to your pleas of forgiveness for calling me a liar.

You may begin.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am home from work now. RobGMN, I am prepared to listen to your pleas of forgiveness for calling me a liar.

You may begin.

You are a liar and I have proved it multiple times.
There will be no apologies.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You are a liar and I have proved it multiple times.
There will be no apologies.

You said I reported you. I did not report you. You said I lied. You going to apologize for that?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No it wasn't.

"On March 20, 2020, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued an emergency regulation to implement a specific aspect of U.S. health law. Section 265 of U.S. Code Title 42 permits the Director of the CDC to “prohibit … the introduction” into the United States of individuals when the director believes that “there is serious danger of the introduction of [a communicable] disease into the United States.” The HHS regulation allows any customs officers—which includes officers of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) such as Border Patrol agents—to implement any such order issued by the CDC."

Learn a little about the hierarchy of the US government and all its agencies.

“The Associated Press reported that then-Vice President Mike Pence ordered Redfield to enact Title 42 over the objections of CDC scientists who said there was no evidence that it would slow the virus’ spread in the U.S.”

Who was president when Pence was vice-president?
I’ll give you a hint: His last name sounds like “Crump”.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Learn a little about the hierarchy of the US government and all its agencies.

“The Associated Press reported that then-Vice President Mike Pence ordered Redfield to enact Title 42 over the objections of CDC scientists who said there was no evidence that it would slow the virus’ spread in the U.S.”

Who was president when Pence was vice-president?
I’ll give you a hint: His last name sounds like “Crump”.

Your information is wrong.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Your information is wrong.

Which part? Who was president in 2020, who was vice-president, or how our government works?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You are a liar and I have proved it multiple times.
There will be no apologies.

Wow...you literally lied about thx...yet instead of owning it...you call him a liar...your parents really raised a winner...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Wow...you literally lied about thx...yet instead of owning it...you call him a liar...your parents really raised a winner...

No they didn't lol

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Which part? Who was president in 2020, who was vice-president, or how our government works?

There is that ego again.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There is that ego again.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!

What does ego have to do with who was president or vice president in 2020?
What does ego have to do with how the government works?

Is that like considering your personal beliefs as more convincing that facts and evidence?