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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If the US was a serious country, we’d allow gun training in school or as part of school.

Lots of "serious" countries don't have gun training in school. Too many idiots and mentally challenged or defective to have the kiddos handling guns at schools.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Lots of "serious" countries don't have gun training in school. Too many idiots and mentally challenged or defective to have the kiddos handling guns at schools.

Like men who think they are women and women who think they are men and people who think it is ok to teach children how to give a blow job or hand job and so on. Yeah, Mental defectives.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The quote that followed:
2) You do have to fit to part of a "well regulated militia," which was gives us "uninfringed" ownership of firearms.

I did garble that pretty good. You do have to be physically fit to be part of a "well regulated militia." Being part of a well regulated militia is what gives us "the right to keep and bear arms."

Jesus Christ. It's not an argument. You made statements I proved the opposite. There is no need to now go back and add stipulations or conditions to your original statements.

I would think in a discussion about the 2a it would be clear I was referring to federal regulations. Now I've clarified that.

It's an example in the definition. The discussion is not about fishing or its use in the definition.

Clearly you have your own issues about things. That doesn't make anyone else wrong or right. You have the power to make a difference. Go out and vote. Make sure to vote with your feelings.

Actually as a independent 3rd party voter, I have even less power than the average voter. To really make a difference I would have to run for office, but then again that 3rd party thing makes that a fantasy. Or I could join a lobbying group, they wield much power than the voters.

And the government doesn't get to decide if I have peace of mind either.

They don't, but nevertheless, the uninfringed right to firearms is based upon maintaining a well regulated militia, not peace of mind.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Like men who think they are women and women who think they are men and people who think it is ok to teach children how to give a blow job or hand job and so on. Yeah, Mental defectives.

I assume you don't have kids in public schools. The crap you described is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Honestly there's a bit more ambiguity about "well regulated" but considering there wasn't an abundance of training opportunities...I'd say a safe bet would well versed in firearm handling...which at one was not only a byproduct of firearm ownership but also the reliance on those same firearms for day to day living...

Able bodied essentially meant not crippled in those days...if you could hold a rifle and march...you were able bodied...that's a far different standard than "fit"...hell probably a third (at least) of LEO couldn't be described as fit

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Lots of "serious" countries don't have gun training in school. Too many idiots and mentally challenged or defective to have the kiddos handling guns at schools.

That’s quite discriminatory.

The whole point is to train someone to be responsible with something that has great power. Our society is turning into a giant McDonald’s playpen, and no one is becoming better for it. Humanity would’ve never survived as long as we have without teaching the young how to handle weapons at any time in history. Let’s stop dumbing people down and give people real experience with real power that has real consequences, that way everyone knows how to be responsible and takes their own lives and actions seriously, and are able to defend themselves in this historically violent world.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That’s quite discriminatory.

The whole point is to train someone to be responsible with something that has great power. Our society is turning into a giant McDonald’s playpen, and no one is becoming better for it. Humanity would’ve never survived as long as we have without teaching the young how to handle weapons at any time in history. Let’s stop dumbing people down and give people real experience with real power that has real consequences, that way everyone knows how to be responsible and takes their own lives and actions seriously, and are able to defend themselves in this historically violent world.

I'm going to guess you don't have kids in the public school system. We have 6th graders on drugs, legal and illegal. Furries, and by mental defectives, I mean truly mental defectives in the classroom - ie they couldn't pass the ASVAB, they are unable to make it through a day without acting out, sub 60-70iq kids, can't follow directions, can't control themselves, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to have kids that may be on drugs or off their meds around firearms. If you think you're really a wolf and prone to fits of howling in the middle of class, then I don't want you around firearms at all, but especially around my kids. As a matter of fact if you think you're a wolf or deer, etc you probably shouldn't want to be around firearms either. I certainly don't want my kid in the room with the kid that looses his mind a couple times a week and refuses to follow the teacher's instructions on live ammo day.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Honestly there's a bit more ambiguity about "well regulated" but considering there wasn't an abundance of training opportunities...I'd say a safe bet would well versed in firearm handling...which at one was not only a byproduct of firearm ownership but also the reliance on those same firearms for day to day living...

Able bodied essentially meant not crippled in those days...if you could hold a rifle and march...you were able bodied...that's a far different standard than "fit"...hell probably a third (at least) of LEO couldn't be described as fit

Back then you were marching where ever you were going and hauling your shit on your back, so yeah, you had to be real fit not "not crippled" fit.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I did garble that pretty good. You do have to be physically fit to be part of a "well regulated militia." Being part of a well regulated militia is what gives us "the right to keep and bear arms."

If one of the regulations is that you have to be physically fit... well then sure. By the by, I was just pokin sticks at you with the garbled mess lol. I just figured you were a raging alcoholic but got most of your point across.

I would think in a discussion about the 2a it would be clear I was referring to federal regulations. Now I've clarified that.

Perhaps but there is more to it than federal wouldn't you agree?

Actually as a independent 3rd party voter, I have even less power than the average voter. To really make a difference I would have to run for office, but then again that 3rd party thing makes that a fantasy. Or I could join a lobbying group, they wield much power than the voters.

You can still make a difference.

They don't, but nevertheless, the uninfringed right to firearms is based upon maintaining a well regulated militia, not peace of mind.

I'd have to refer to the 14th to bolster my 2nd.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I assume you don't have kids in public schools. The crap you described is only the tip of the iceberg.

Sadly no... she is grown now and as of the 15th, a married woman

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'm going to guess you don't have kids in the public school system. We have 6th graders on drugs, legal and illegal. Furries, and by mental defectives, I mean truly mental defectives in the classroom - ie they couldn't pass the ASVAB, they are unable to make it through a day without acting out, sub 60-70iq kids, can't follow directions, can't control themselves, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to have kids that may be on drugs or off their meds around firearms. If you think you're really a wolf and prone to fits of howling in the middle of class, then I don't want you around firearms at all, but especially around my kids. As a matter of fact if you think you're a wolf or deer, etc you probably shouldn't want to be around firearms either. I certainly don't want my kid in the room with the kid that looses his mind a couple times a week and refuses to follow the teacher's instructions on live ammo day.

I’m not saying everyone should be forced or approved to do it, but it should be an option.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

All in the name of racial equality

Biden raises costs for homebuyers with good credit to help risky borrowers

The administration's new rule will reduce mortgage fees for riskier borrowers but will be subsidized by borrowers with higher credit scores.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

bruh Chiraq is operating on different level

Teens charged with misdemeanor in stolen vehicle crash that killed 6-month-old

A GoFundMe has been set up for the family to assist with funeral services.

wgntv.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Sadly no... she is grown now and as of the 15th, a married woman

From what I'm seeing in schools now, I think you may be lucky.