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I’ve already posted tons of these studies over time dude, not doing it again. I can and have found tons of studies saying cloth/paper (which is what most people used) masks don’t work, and it’s just gonna come down to what you choose to believe based on what you find and how much you trust anyone or any study. The whole totalitarian nightmare of wear your masks or else or social distance or else or vaccinate or else is a totalitarian nightmare.
No. I'm talking YOUR studies. Not a YouTube video of a guy blowing smoke through a tee-shirt, or a "study" that is done with no control group or proper parameters in place, or some nonsense from a far-right conspiracy theory website.
I' like to see the results of valid studies.

I would like to see the results of YOUR studies that brought you to the conclusions you shared earlier.
 
Here’s one large compilation:

Yes, you can tell they are not pushing any agenda whatsoever:
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"In 2021, Tucker founded the nonprofit Brownstone Institute for Social and Economic Research, a think tank that opposes various measures against COVID-19, including masking and vaccine mandates. Senior roles were given to Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya, two of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which Tucker also helped to organize. The institute has described itself as "the spiritual child" of the Great Barrington Declaration. Writers of Brownstone articles have included Sunetra Gupta, the third co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration, Paul E. Alexander, a former Trump administration health official, and George Gilder, a senior resident fellow at AIER.[24][25] Science-Based Medicine has described the Brownstone Institute as spreading misinformation against vaccines and in favor of disproven treatments

Military recruits quarantined in close quarters still got COVID even when masks were worn is proof that masks do not work?
That's pretty crazy, huh? I guess if my headache doesn't go away after I take a tylenol, I have completed a study that shows acetaminophen does not work as a pain reducer.

Strong logic, right?
 
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Just because read the first study that backs your claim on Google doesn't mean it's definitive...there are tons of quality studies done on face mask effectiveness preventing viral transmission...read enough and you see that it's not overwhelming effective...
 
See, this is the bullshit from you I’m talking about; everyone has an agenda or bias, including what you post. Saying that doesn’t mean anything; everyone has bias. Brownstone didn’t do those studies; all they did compile studies from a large amount of sources.

Told you that you wouldn’t read them you f*cking boot licking f*ggot.
Therein lies the problem. They gathered gflawed studies and reached a conclusion from them. Then you accept the conclusion without looking at the flawed studies.
Their agenda is to stop mask use. What is the agenda of the medical world to promote mask use? What is their big gain? What do Stamford and Yale get out of people washing their hands, avoiding each other when sick, and wearing a mask when sick?

You distance yourself from fact in order to get the answer you want to hear. Brownstone saus what you want to hear, even though their basis of argument is false. So, you believe them.

Thxone does something similar, but in reverse: When factual info is provided that shreds his feelings, he decides he will not believe the facts because he is not a sheep and "questions" things. He would never "question" something that supports his narrative, but he "questions" something like the statistics from the Bureau of Labor because those stats provide info he doesn't like.

And his "questioning" is merely to say he "questions" things. he doesn't actually do any research to find contrary evidence or disprove a known fact. He just "questions".

And no, I am not a homosexual. And I don;t car if people are or are not. I'm not sure what sexuality has to do with facts and evidence, but you and Thxone sure seem to focus on it when your theories are shredded.
Are you both self-hating homosexuals who try to cover with ********** ad-hominem?
 
‘Histories of the surgical mask offer some clues about our contemporary risk profile, a profile that is, according to the nature of risk, future-oriented. The birth of the mask came from the realization that surgical wounds need protection from the droplets released in the breath of surgeons.3,4 The technology was applied outside the operating room in an effort to control the spread of infectious epidemics. In the 1919 influenza pandemic, masks were available and were dispensed to populations, but they had no impact on the epidemic curve.3At the time, it was unknown that the influenza organism is nanoscopic and can theoretically penetrate the surgical mask barrier. As recently as 2010, the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.”’

‘In an annex to the Canadian pandemic influenza preparedness plan covering public health measures,9 the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) does not recommend the use of masks by well individuals in pandemic situations, acknowledging that the mask has not been shown to be effective in such circumstances.’


This was posted BEFORE covid, in 2016.

Part of why I never thought masks work is that they didn’t seem to help with other viral transmissions, as has been said before covid was even a thing.

Surgical masks are made to catch water droplets or larger size particles, like from a sneeze, during surgery. Virus particles are too small to be capture by the filter material, as the strands of cloth are too far apart to actually catch the extremely small viral particles, especially when it comes to covid, because covid is aerosolized, so it’ll float right through the masks, just like a pebble can be thrown through the gap of a chain link fence.

The gov knows masks don’t work. People who wear it out of fear are like babies crying without a pacifier.
 
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Just because read the first study that backs your claim on Google doesn't mean it's definitive...there are tons of quality studies done on face mask effectiveness preventing viral transmission...read enough and you see that it's not overwhelming effective...
a study involving 350,000 people is pretty solid.
It certainly is better than "a bunch of soldiers in barracks still got sick when wearing a mask".
What about the control group that wore no masks at all?

One of the "studies" in Buck's linked article is a "study" that says the Stamford Yale study showed masks were ineffective because they only reduced infection by up to 22%.
Hmmm, 22% seems a pretty decent reduction.
 
‘Histories of the surgical mask offer some clues about our contemporary risk profile, a profile that is, according to the nature of risk, future-oriented. The birth of the mask came from the realization that surgical wounds need protection from the droplets released in the breath of surgeons.3,4 The technology was applied outside the operating room in an effort to control the spread of infectious epidemics. In the 1919 influenza pandemic, masks were available and were dispensed to populations, but they had no impact on the epidemic curve.3At the time, it was unknown that the influenza organism is nanoscopic and can theoretically penetrate the surgical mask barrier. As recently as 2010, the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.”’

‘In an annex to the Canadian pandemic influenza preparedness plan covering public health measures,9 the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) does not recommend the use of masks by well individuals in pandemic situations, acknowledging that the mask has not been shown to be effective in such circumstances.’


This was posted BEFORE covid, in 2016.

Part of why I never thought masks work is that they didn’t seem to help with other viral transmissions, as has been said before covid was even a thing.

Surgical masks are made to catch water droplets or larger size particles, like from a sneeze, during surgery. Virus particles are too small to be capture by the filter material, as the strands of cloth are too far apart to actually catch the extremely small viral particles, especially when it comes to covid, because covid is aerosolized, so it’ll float right through the masks, just like a pebble can be thrown through the gap of a chain link fence.

They know masks don’t work. People who wear it out of fear are like babies crying without a pacifier.
It's an interesting read, but it speaks nothing to the efficacy of masks in preventing the spread of disease.
He says that the mask is worn to instill fear, and not much else.

So tell us, Buck: Would YOU have surgery from a person who is not wearing a mask and just breathing regularly over your open chest while they do that bypass?
Answer honestly.
 
So tell us, Buck: Would YOU have surgery from a person who is not wearing a mask and just breathing regularly over your open chest while they do that bypass?
Answer honestly.
That has absolutely nothing to do with forcing everyone in the country to wear a mask.

The masks don’t stop viral transmission, and they didn’t before covid, didn’t during covid, and still don’t. Masks like that are simply meant to keep fluids from flying out or off your face onto someone else.

A virus that is floating in your breath doesn’t get caught by those masks, and especially when it doesn’t cover the whole face. These masks people use where your breath goes around the mask, LOL- you know, the kind most of the world was wearing?- those don’t do shit. Covid is all in that air that you breathe out all around your mask; it should be extremely obvious.
 
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That has absolutely nothing to do with forcing everyone in the country to wear a mask.

The masks don’t stop viral transmission, and they didn’t before covid, didn’t during covid, and still don’t. Masks like that are simply meant to keep fluids from flying out or off your face onto someone else.

A virus that is floating in your breath doesn’t get caught by those masks, and especially when it doesn’t cover the whole face. These masks people use where your breath goes around the mask, LOL- you know, the kind most of the world was wearing?- those don’t do shit. Covid is all in that air that you breathe out all around your mask; it should be extremely obvious.
You keep repeating the same thoughts, but provide no legitimate evidence to back it up.
They represent your feelings and what you WANT to be the truth, but simply WANTING something to be the truth doesn't make it so.

You desperately WANT there to be a god, but that doesn't translate to proof there IS a god.
You desperately WANT the recommendation of wearing masks to be some dark conspiracy put in place by the lizard people or deep state, but that doesn't make it so.
You desperately WANT the vaccine to be killing or controlling or controlling and then killing us all, or making us magnetic, or making us into 5G cell towers, but that doesn't make it so.

I'm sorry Buck, but you can't just wish things into reality.
Yet.
 
You keep repeating the same thoughts, but provide no legitimate evidence to back it up.
They represent your feelings and what you WANT to be the truth, but simply WANTING something to be the truth doesn't make it so.

You desperately WANT there to be a god, but that doesn't translate to proof there IS a god.
You desperately WANT the recommendation of wearing masks to be some dark conspiracy put in place by the lizard people or deep state, but that doesn't make it so.
You desperately WANT the vaccine to be killing or controlling or controlling and then killing us all, or making us magnetic, or making us into 5G cell towers, but that doesn't make it so.

I'm sorry Buck, but you can't just wish things into reality.
Yet.
You desperately want to side track the subject by throwing all this other BS in there. And just like I said, I provided info, you don’t read it or even look at it for the information in it. It’s the same rinse and repeat BS that you do to everyone on here. Anyways, idgaf. You certainly aren’t changing my mind in any direction. Have a nice day, Rob.
 
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It's all good buddy...read 1 study and be the expert 🤣
Nope. I let the experts be the experts.

I consider a study by Stamford/Yale that says masks are effective to carry more credibility than an Op/Ed that says even though the study proves efficacy, masks are ineffective.

Are you like Thxone, who "questions" things a lot? Do you simply "question", or do you actively pursue the truth?
 
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