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[Kayge 10+ year member]

Keep trying, pizza boy. No one is doubting my job except you.
Everyone is doubting all of your bullshit claims.

Tell us more how “nothing happened” at the Capitol on Jan 6th, while you also hold up Ashli Babbitt as a Republican martyr who was killed while climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door INTO the Capitol.
On Jan 6th.

oh yea, and Officer Brian Sicknick died after getting hit in the head by a fire extinguisher

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

oh yea, and Officer Brian Sicknick died after getting hit in the head by a fire extinguisher

That sure did happen...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

oh yea, and Officer Brian Sicknick died after getting hit in the head by a fire extinguisher

That’s not what the Justice Department said.
Julian Khater and George Tanios assaulted him and pepper sprayed him.
That’s what “peaceful protesters” who are just “wearing hats and waving flags” do: they assault and pepper spray cops.

Sicknick was a Democrat shill paid by Soros to die in order to make Trumpers look bad.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

MSN

www.msn.com

Still tap dancing. You brought it up. Are you saying the numbers are “fiddled” with, or not?

If so, prove it.
If not, explain why you brought it up.

He responded (to my post) that the numbers could be fiddled with. Basically it's non-position. Ultimately it's sort of a non-conspiracy conspiracy theory. You can't prove that that red states are really red (ie how do we know there isn't a conspiracy (aka fiddling) afoot to make the red states appear redder than they are to the point they may even be blue states). Therefore since we don't know that red states are indeed red, we can't know that money flows from blue states to red states. As a matter of fact, how do we even know the blue states are actually blue. It could be completely the opposite and money is actually flowing from red states (even though they appear to be blue states) to blue states (even though they appear to be red states). However, since we know that Dems are more likely to receive SNAP benefits than Republicans, we can safely conclude that either the supposed Red States are actually far less red than we've been led to believe or even potentially purple/blue states. Not only that most of the "fake red" states in question were blue states prior to Reagan. Perhaps Mississippi, Alabama, et al have actually been blue states all along and Reagan never actually flipped them.

However, that begs the question: who is behind the effort to make certain blue/purple states appear to be red states? What are their motives? What do "they" have to gain? How are "they" making these "fake red" states appear so red? Since the most common barometer is how they vote, does this mean "they" are suppressing Dem votes? Perhaps they've somehow inflated the number of ballots being cast for Republicans (aka stealing elections). And if "they" are somehow either suppressing blue votes or inflating red votes, then why isn't there a discrepancy when compared to poll numbers? How are "they" manipulating polling #s to keep their conspiracy hidden.

Again, as you can see, anything can be explained or explained away with just the right conspiracy. All you have to do is begin by assuming whatever the facts are observing are actually make believe. Then you fill in the facts (doing your own "independent" research) and blame any incongruency with obserable/provable facts on unseen actors until you reach a quasi-plausible conclusion that fits within a pre-determined narrative.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Sgt. Tyler Vargas-Andrews lost his right arm and left leg in the explosion Kubal afghan.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Memory hole innocent family dead in retaliation for 13 marines. This kind action creates the next generation of terris

Newly Declassified Video Shows U.S. Killing of 10 Civilians in Drone Strike (Published 2022)

The New York Times obtained footage of the botched strike in Kabul, whose victims included seven children, through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That’s not what the Justice Department said.
Julian Khater and George Tanios assaulted him and pepper sprayed him.
That’s what “peaceful protesters” who are just “wearing hats and waving flags” do: they assault and pepper spray cops.

Sicknick was a Democrat shill paid by Soros to die in order to make Trumpers look bad.

I'm sure anybody that works in cardiovascular can confirm that the stress of being assaulted during a riot and pepper sprayed cannot possibly cause a stroke (Sicknick's cause of death). Look up the leading causes of stroke - high blood pressure, diabetes, overwieght/obesity, high cholesterol, smoking, drug use/abuse, birth control pills, high red blood cell count, stress, lack of exercise, over exertion, alcohol abuse, irregular heart rhythm, Cardiac structural abnormalities, race, gender, genetics, socio-economic factors. Notice what's missing from that exhaustive list - assaulted during riot and pepper spray.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/stroke/risk-factors-for-stroke

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Remember the American allies and service dogs that were left behind

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Still tap dancing. You brought it up. Are you saying the numbers are “fiddled” with, or not?

If so, prove it.
If not, explain why you brought it up.

If I don't? What are you gonna do? Keep repeating the same shit you keep saying? Threaten to kick my asss? Throw a fit? Attempt to shame me? Tell me which numbers secretary man.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

MSN

www.msn.com

He responded (to my post) that the numbers could be fiddled with. Basically it's non-position. Ultimately it's sort of a non-conspiracy conspiracy theory. You can't prove that that red states are really red (ie how do we know there isn't a conspiracy (aka fiddling) afoot to make the red states appear redder than they are to the point they may even be blue states). Therefore since we don't know that red states are indeed red, we can't know that money flows from blue states to red states. As a matter of fact, how do we even know the blue states are actually blue. It could be completely the opposite and money is actually flowing from red states (even though they appear to be blue states) to blue states (even though they appear to be red states). However, since we know that Dems are more likely to receive SNAP benefits than Republicans, we can safely conclude that either the supposed Red States are actually far less red than we've been led to believe or even potentially purple/blue states. Not only that most of the "fake red" states in question were blue states prior to Reagan. Perhaps Mississippi, Alabama, et al have actually been blue states all along and Reagan never actually flipped them.

However, that begs the question: who is behind the effort to make certain blue/purple states appear to be red states? What are their motives? What do "they" have to gain? How are "they" making these "fake red" states appear so red? Since the most common barometer is how they vote, does this mean "they" are suppressing Dem votes? Perhaps they've somehow inflated the number of ballots being cast for Republicans (aka stealing elections). And if "they" are somehow either suppressing blue votes or inflating red votes, then why isn't there a discrepancy when compared to poll numbers? How are "they" manipulating polling #s to keep their conspiracy hidden.

Again, as you can see, anything can be explained or explained away with just the right conspiracy. All you have to do is begin by assuming whatever the facts are observing are actually make believe. Then you fill in the facts (doing your own "independent" research) and blame any incongruency with obserable/provable facts on unseen actors until you reach a quasi-plausible conclusion that fits within a pre-determined narrative.

That wasn't even my point though. I never, not one time, disputed a states color. My point is, for example, that a red state is said to use more food stamps. This looks like the majority of Republicans in this red state use the assistance. When the PEOPLE were polled it was shown that in this red state Democrats used the most food stamps. It's misleading to see who is said to be using the food stamps based on the color of the state. You follow?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That wasn't even my point though. I never, not one time, disputed a states color. My point is, for example, that a red state is said to use more food stamps. This looks like the majority of Republicans in this red state use the assistance. When the PEOPLE were polled it was shown that in this red state Democrats used the most food stamps. It's misleading to see who is said to be using the food stamps based on the color of the state. You follow?

I follow that. But I don't recall anybody presenting a case based on food stamps or a case that more conservatives/reds use food stamps. Why would anybody with half a brain take up a position that there is no evidence to support? As a matter of fact, the evidence available tends to be to the contrary. Say what you will about Rob, but he generally has evidence to support whatever position he's taken up.

The case presented by Rob (and quasi-endorsed by me) was that tax dollars (on a per capita basis) tend to flow from blue to red states (you could even break down to urban/rural areas). Those tax dollars could be SNAP, but they also could be school spending, infrastructure improvements, defense spending, etc. TBH, I don't have a problem with bluer states investing in red states, but it's certainly hypocritical when the political leadership in those red states rail against wealth transfer, higher taxes, federal gov't, gov't spending, etc, yet there they are with their hands out when it's time to start cutting checks. These same "red folks" are the ones that keep telling me that "Dems are great at spending other people's money," but there is a strong case for the Dems are supporting policies that benefit conservatives at their own expense.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If I don't? What are you gonna do? Keep repeating the same shit you keep saying? Threaten to kick my asss? Throw a fit? Attempt to shame me? Tell me which numbers secretary man.

Nope, just watch you continue to post stupid shit and continue to be considered a fool. Perhaps even MORE the fool.

Tell us how “tautology” is the repetition of what someone else has said.
Tell us how you cannot buy gas at a rest stop.
Tell us how the Border crisis that started under Trump’s administration is Biden’s fault.
Tell us how making money in the stock market during the pandemic is evil and hurt America.

Managed to not understand both irony and tautology in the same post. A two-fer.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Memory hole innocent family dead in retaliation for 13 marines. This kind action creates the next generation of terris

Just. Wow.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Nope, just watch you continue to post stupid shit and continue to be considered a fool. Perhaps even MORE the fool.

Tell us how “tautology” is the repetition of what someone else has said.
Tell us how you cannot buy gas at a rest stop.
Tell us how the Border crisis that started under Trump’s administration is Biden’s fault.
Tell us how making money in the stock market during the pandemic is evil and hurt America.

Managed to not understand both irony and tautology in the same post. A two-fer.
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All that fluff just to avoid telling me which numbers. I'd like to address the numbers you say I am talking about.