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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Ahhhh, that mist have been the OTHER Thxone, eh:
"yet half the country votes Democrat. Higher taxes, more restrictions, overpriced healthcare, and let's not forget that our gas prices are going to shoot up to and over $3 a gallon, electricity will jump up in price as well"
"Not really relevant as the past prices can't be undone and neither can the events."
"Not energy independent, higher national debt, higher fuel and gas prices. Yeah, smart choice."
"No shiit, as soon as Biden went into the White House, gas prices went up. First hitting $2.00 for 87 then climbing higher since."
"Well let's see, when the price of gas has no problem being under $2 a gallon under one president and the just because a dipshit is elected we get to pay..."

So tell us, do you spend within your budget every day or are you living beyond you means by only working enough to pay for the bills at hand?

It's a compound question, but I think you can handle it.
An answer would be a fair ask in the spirit of conversation that you desire so much.

And? Talking about a topic in a conversation does not have anything to do with this conversation about not basing what I like off of past gas prices. I could use past gas prices, but I don't have to and that is the point. I am sorry you can't get simple points.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

What is Irony?

Quick Reminder of What Irony Is

Irony is a rhetorical device in which the appearance of something is opposite to its reality.


There are four main types of irony: verbal irony, dramatic irony, situational irony, and Socratic irony. Socratic irony is not a literary device, and therefore we will not be looking at examples, but it is worth being aware of.

• Verbal Irony is when a speaker says one thing but means something entirely different. The literal meaning is at odds with the intended meaning.
• Dramatic Irony is when the audience knows something that the characters don’t.
• Situational Irony is when what happens is the opposite of what you expect.
• Socratic Irony is when a person feigns ignorance in order to get another to admit to knowing or doing something. It is named after Socrates, the Greek philosopher, who used this technique to tease information out of his students.

Tell me guys, which version are you using?

For the record, I use situational and verbal irony on this forum. I feel it would be misleadingly disingenuous to use dramatic or Socratic irony in discussion about politics.

You're completely missing what irony is or isn't. Not so ironically, you're having difficulty with tautology as well too, but we'll save that for another future upcoming post.

For example, is it situational irony when Trump supporters criticize Biden and the FDA for pushing through the vaccine, when indeed it was Trump's doing? Well that depends on perspective, intent of the writer, the audience, expectations, etc.

So I could post "It's ironic that Trump's base is so critical of Biden and the FDA pushing through the vaccine, when it was Trump who spearheaded Warp Speed." Bobby could then could respond and say "Yeah, that is pretty ironic - smiley face emoji." But then Rob could chime in and say "I don't find it ironic at all; that's exactly what I would expect from Trump supporters, they're a bunch of hypocrites." Because of their individual perspectives and expectations the statement can be both ironic and not ironic. I assume you find that to be ironic, but an English professor or a writer wouldn't find it to be ironic. So irony is a lot like comedy; I loved Baldwin's Trump character on SNL. OTOH, I'm sure it pissed off a lot of Trump supporters.

Ironically, when Hillary lost to Trump, that's exactly what they did - looked at what went wrong with polling data.

Specifically, this earlier post from before, you did not appear to be utilizing Socratic irony in the post I was responding to, therefore my post would be ironic. Unless you were using Socratic irony, in which case your irony would cancel my irony and my statement would cease to be ironic like a drawn out double negative. However, I maintain that you weren't using Socratic irony or you're response wouldn't have focused on my "misuse" of the word irony and you would have moved on to wherever your Socratic logic was supposed to lead. So ironically, it's your focus on the word irony that leads me to believe I was indeed correct in pointing out the irony of your statement.

Tautologically, I have to go work on my spouse's brakes so my wife can stop her car when she's driving.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

For the record, I use situational and verbal irony on this forum. I feel it would be misleadingly disingenuous to use dramatic or Socratic irony in discussion about politics.

You're completely missing what irony is or isn't. Not so ironically, you're having difficulty with tautology as well too, but we'll save that for another future upcoming post.

For example, is it situational irony when Trump supporters criticize Biden and the FDA for pushing through the vaccine, when indeed it was Trump's doing? Well that depends on perspective, intent of the writer, the audience, expectations, etc.

So I could post "It's ironic that Trump's base is so critical of Biden and the FDA pushing through the vaccine, when it was Trump who spearheaded Warp Speed." Bobby could then could respond and say "Yeah, that is pretty ironic - smiley face emoji." But then Rob could chime in and say "I don't find it ironic at all; that's exactly what I would expect from Trump supporters, they're a bunch of hypocrites." Because of their individual perspectives and expectations the statement can be both ironic and not ironic. I assume you find that to be ironic, but an English professor or a writer wouldn't find it to be ironic. So irony is a lot like comedy; I loved Baldwin's Trump character on SNL. OTOH, I'm sure it pissed off a lot of Trump supporters.



Specifically, this earlier post from before, you did not appear to be utilizing Socratic irony in the post I was responding to, therefore my post would be ironic. Unless you were using Socratic irony, in which case your irony would cancel my irony and my statement would cease to be ironic like a drawn out double negative. However, I maintain that you weren't using Socratic irony or you're response wouldn't have focused on my "misuse" of the word irony and you would have moved on to wherever your Socratic logic was supposed to lead. So ironically, it's your focus on the word irony that leads me to believe I was indeed correct in pointing out the irony of your statement.

Tautologically, I have to go work on my spouse's brakes so my wife can stop her car when she's driving.

I am so glad I didn't put it in my sig.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am so glad I didn't put it in my sig.

Good plan. You may want to remove that hearsay claim too. Unless you are trying to be ironic by posting false information while claiming you don't post false information?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And? Talking about a topic in a conversation does not have anything to do with this conversation about not basing what I like off of past gas prices. I could use past gas prices, but I don't have to and that is the point. I am sorry you can't get simple points.

CHANGE is all about history, kid. Your complaints have very often been about the CHANGE of gas prices. And you very often referenced prices under Trump, which are HISTORICAL.
Without history, there is no CHANGE.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You're not very good at conversational debate, but at least you gave me a little practice today.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

CHANGE is all about history, kid. Your complaints have very often been about the CHANGE of gas prices. And you very often referenced prices under Trump, which are HISTORICAL.
Without history, there is no CHANGE.

Cool, good for you. Thanks for letting me remember that some people you just can't talk too. You being that person. Troll on little buddy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

A potential for a wrong vote to occur. Voting without knowing:

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Cool, good for you. Thanks for letting me remember that some people you just can't talk too. You being that person. Troll on little buddy.

I guess when you only think “conversation” is you posting a false claim, and not being called on it here, then “talking TO you” is certainly difficult.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I guess when you only think “conversation” is you posting a false claim, and not being called on it here, then “talking TO you” is certainly difficult.

Not my thoughts at all. Keep on truckin and speaking for other people troll.

 

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not my thoughts at all. Keep on truckin and speaking for other people troll.

You speak for yourself. Unfortunately you do it publicly here, and reap the drubbings for it.
Hahahaha.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You speak for yourself. Unfortunately you do it publicly here, and reap the drubbings for it.
Hahahaha.

And then you step in and tell us what we really meant from the way you see it. Got it. Moving on troll.

 

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