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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Did defunding begin in Kenosha before or after the Rittenhouse incident?

If you don't understand the effects on policing the movement had before budgets got cut...you are either a partisan hack...or the most naive individual I've ever come across...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Careful, he's kinda tricky. He will say your words mean something different than the way you meant them then tell you that you're wrong and you're bacpedaling.

Fair enough. So, tell us exactly what your words meant when you posted this claim in response to my request for proof: "City financial records show they reduced the law enforcement budget by $263,545 in July of 2020."
You were never able to back them up with any proof.

Did they mean nothing? If so, why'd you post them?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If you don't understand the effects on policing the movement had before budgets got cut...you are either a partisan hack...or the most naive individual I've ever come across...

That doesn't explain Thxone's claim that Kyle was there because Kenosha defunded the police in July 2020.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

That doesn't explain Thxone's claim that Kyle was there because Kenosha defunded the police in July 2020.

Rittenhouse was there because the local law enforcement wasn't permitted to prevent the rioting...that feeds back to the effect the defund movement had on local officials trickling down to the manner police were allowed to operate...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Rittenhouse was there because the local law enforcement wasn't permitted to prevent the rioting...that feeds back to the effect the defund movement had on local officials trickling down to the manner police were allowed to operate...

You might want to explain that to Thxone. He's of an entirely different excuse structure.
But now to YOURS: What proof was there of this "do not stop riots rule" that Kyle could have known about?
How did #defundthepolice trickle down in two months to what the police were doing on the street?
How did Kyle know about this trickle down in order to determine his presence was "needed"?

If anything, it seems the police presence was kicked UP: https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwau...scaled-up-law-enforcement-presence-in-kenosha
National Guard being sent in: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...bb06f6-4ee9-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Gov. Evers Deploys National Guard to Kenosha Ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Decision

Hundreds of Wisconsin National Guard troops have been activated in preparation for a possible verdict next week in the Kenosha murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, according to Gov. Tony Evers’ office.

www.nbcchicago.com

All right for fucks sake!!! You all keep saying he should not have been there. He was "playing COP at 17". Since Rob and Bobby like to make everything political it amazes me this was left out. Probably because it looks bad for Democrats. Kyle was there to defend property. Why? Because Democrats defunded police. Those people are dead because they were stupid and because Democrats were playing fucking games because "Orange Man Bad" Period. There was far less police presence and riots as well as looting were all over America. Kyle was there as an American to protect.

But again, in the Lefts eyes... Kyle was a White Male Trump Supporting Domestic Terrorist with an Assault Rifle.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You might want to explain that to Thxone. He's of an entirely different excuse structure.
But now to YOURS: What proof was there of this "do not stop riots rule" that Kyle could have known about?
How did #defundthepolice trickle down in two months to what the police were doing on the street?
How did Kyle know about this trickle down in order to determine his presence was "needed"?

Read something past the headline...it's pretty easy to see the effect it had nation wide...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Read something past the headline...it's pretty easy to see the effect it had nation wide...

So hundreds of extra cops and hundreds of National Guard members, and Kyle "knew" that they were all told to do nothing, so HIS presence was going to change the game?

How did Kyle know of these special mandates that the extra cops and Guard members were given, yet these mandates haven't been blown wide open in the news?
Why is Thxone convinced Kyle was there due to "Democrat defunding" and a reduction in the police force when the opposite is true? (I ask of you, since you seem to support his claims),

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

So hundreds of extra cops and hundreds of National Guard members, and Kyle "knew" that they were all told to do nothing, so HIS presence was going to change the game?

How did Kyle know of these special mandates that the extra cops and Guard members were given, yet these mandates haven't been blown wide open in the news?
Why is Thxone convinced Kyle was there due to "Democrat defunding" and a reduction in the police force when the opposite is true? (I ask of you, since you seem to support his claims),

And that's why I didn't answer your question? You got fck all past hybole and misinformation on this topic

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And that's why I didn't answer your question? You got fck all past hybole and misinformation on this topic

You and Thxone offer nothing but speculation, false premises and even outright lies, but you accuse ME of hyperpbole and misinformation?

That’s pretty fvcking rich bullshit, right there.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You and Thxone offer nothing but speculation, false premises and even outright lies, but you accuse ME of hyperpbole and misinformation?

That’s pretty fvcking rich bullshit, right there.

Really? Where did I lie about Rittenhouse?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Really? Where did I lie about Rittenhouse?

Enough?

Rittenhouse was there because the local law enforcement wasn't permitted to prevent the rioting...that feeds back to the effect the defund movement had on local officials trickling down to the manner police were allowed to operate...

or is two better?

Nope because that's a general definition...a legal precedent usually occurs when existing law is interpreted in a manner considered different from written law...none of that is applicable here...

three?

four?

There was no precedents set in the Rittenhouse case...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Thats not a lie...that's an opinion based on what police were facing in the months leading up to Kenosha and Rittenhouse's own statements why he was there...both of which are facts...so I guess a fact based opinion

Try again buddy

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Fair enough. So, tell us exactly what your words meant when you posted this claim in response to my request for proof: "City financial records show they reduced the law enforcement budget by $263,545 in July of 2020."
You were never able to back them up with any proof.

Did they mean nothing? If so, why'd you post them?

This is me getting inside that brain of yours. I told you I could do it at will. I have and here you are still doing what I want you to do almost 24 hours later.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope because that's a general definition...a legal precedent usually occurs when existing law is interpreted in a manner considered different from written law...none of that is applicable here...

Thats not a lie...that's an opinion based on what police were facing in the months leading up to Kenosha and Rittenhouse's own statements why he was there...both of which are facts...so I guess a fact based opinion

Try again buddy

Ohhhh, so it’s suddenly an opinion when the facts indicate it’s wrong.
Got it.
Does that go for your definition and findings that the case cannot be a precedent, or just about there not being enough police presence and involvement due to #defundtgepolice?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You might want to explain that to Thxone. He's of an entirely different excuse structure.
But now to YOURS: What proof was there of this "do not stop riots rule" that Kyle could have known about?
How did #defundthepolice trickle down in two months to what the police were doing on the street?
How did Kyle know about this trickle down in order to determine his presence was "needed"?

If anything, it seems the police presence was kicked UP: https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwau...scaled-up-law-enforcement-presence-in-kenosha
National Guard being sent in: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...bb06f6-4ee9-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Gov. Evers Deploys National Guard to Kenosha Ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Decision

Hundreds of Wisconsin National Guard troops have been activated in preparation for a possible verdict next week in the Kenosha murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, according to Gov. Tony Evers’ office.

www.nbcchicago.com

Hey, I never said they defunded the police in Kenosha. I said Democrats defunded the police. As in Democratic cities. That was the whole point. Real Americans know that law enforcement is necessary and the word was out about Kenosha and that is why people went there, to protect that area as it was being targeted and it was known the police would be light.