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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I beg to differ. Especially once it was revealed that he was intentionally severely underplaying it and continued to do so. Even going so far as to turn his constituents against medical science, scientists, doctors, and other medical professionals.

Any decent leader would have used Covid to unify us (“common enemy” and all that). Instead, you get people literally with their last breath denying they even have the virus that is causing their demise.

That's just the reality of politics. He was going to get beat up over covid no matter what he did, so he decided his best chance was to turn it into a culture war.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

How do you give him a pass on saying the virus would disappear? His whole cult believed that BS and who knows how many of them died because of it. You give him a pass on calling our Doctors and Scientists idiots. Do you not remember the bleach and Cobra blood or venom Doctor that he backed? He may have handled the economy good but his handling of the virus was terrible. That's probably what cost him the election.

He was destined to lose the election the second the pandemic happened. I don't know anybody who believed the virus was going to disappear, so yeah he get a pass.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So you'd rather he told the public the end of days are here...especially since "the science" was muddled about the severity of covid...

I don't think the science was muddled. They pretty much had a good idea how it would play out because we had the Wuhan results. Highly infectious, deadly with comorbidity, hits the old harder than the young, etc. We knew all that early on.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you'd rather he told the public the end of days are here...especially since "the science" was muddled about the severity of covid...

So those are the only possible options, huh?
How about telling the TRUTH (I know, not really his forte’) and we all work together to do what is best for society?

The science is always muddled about new illness, it’s how you handle it that matters.

Lying is not a way to handle it.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I don't think the science was muddled. They pretty much had a good idea how it would play out because we had the Wuhan results. Highly infectious, deadly with comorbidity, hits the old harder than the young, etc. We knew all that early on.

In the beginning it wasn't clear...China didn't release good info...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

In the beginning it wasn't clear...China didn't release good info...

That’s irrelevant. There are plans and protocols for “mystery outbreaks” that have been in place since long before COVID.

Lying to the people and telling them “life as usual” is not how you handle things.
And this is not just 20/20 hindsight. It’s why the plans exist in the first place.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

That’s irrelevant. There are plans and protocols for “mystery outbreaks” that have been in place since long before COVID.

Lying to the people and telling them “life as usual” is not how you handle things.
And this is not just 20/20 hindsight. It’s why the plans exist in the first place.

No plan survives first contact...that's 101 stuff ffs...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Watching a replay of the 2012 UEFA Euro Cup final. Played in Kiev.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

In the beginning it wasn't clear...China didn't release good info...

I guess that depends on what you consider early. We were locking down nursing homes in April.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I guess that depends on what you consider early. We were locking down nursing homes in April.

I'm talking the before that...there was evidence covid had been here since the November before but the first official case was in January in seattle...I remember that because flew back to buried my friend about a week after it was annouced...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Have I not posted negative stuff about Biden? When have you ever posted something positive about Biden or negative about Trump? It's not an employers job to figure out if somebody is illegal or not. You've obviously never owned a company and went through the process of hiring people. A lot of people couldn't afford to live if all the illegals went back to their respective Countries. And our Government knows it.

This is how you talk bad about Trump and Biden...

Trump killed millions, he incited an insurrection, he stole from the government, he is pure evil!!!


Biden wore a blue jacket with black pants and a brown belt... I did not like that.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Right?!?
Considering he knows more about everything than everyone ever, he probably should have done better.

Let me see if I am reading your sarcasm correctly........ So when it comes to "know-it-alls" you are saying it is Trump THEN RobGMN?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No plan survives first contact...that's 101 stuff ffs...

No plan ever survives complete disregard for the plan.
The “no plan survives first contact” phrase is basically an excuse for failure bastardized from the original quote.