Winners only.

[Kayge 10+ year member]

Anyone who claims Trump had no culpability for the events of January 6th is basically stating that there are tens of millions of really stupid Republicans out there. All the ones who are believing this voter fraud bullshit are just as stupid as the ones who believe it but actually went to the Capitol to try and stop the electoral vote.

And all the ones at the Capitol were similarly confused about what Trump meant when he said "fight like hell" to stop the vote. Like mass hypnosis, they all knew to do the same wrong thing. A convenient, yet totally implausible excuse. If you believe it, you're one of the stupid ones.

THAT is the only difference between the two: SOME were extra stupid enough to take action on the lies that they heard and swallowed like Jim Jones' KoolAid.

there is equally tens of millions of really stupid Democrats out there

cities burned, people died, businesses were lost and there is a long list of democrats who had culpability in that too

the stones can be thrown both ways

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Kay - Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it".

Trump called it and said EXACTLY what we would have in America if Biden got elected. Biden was inserted and look what we have. Everything Trump said Biden would do, he has done. Biden also said what his objectives were and he did that too.

You guys can sit there and be far left all you want, think what you want, insult all you want. What's done is done. What will be done now is Biden will be removed. Harris will be removed. This country will be turned back around and put back on the right track.

I hope like hell that the next President makes sure all these current criminals are held accountable for what they have done to this country and to us citizens.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I want you lefty liberals to tell me why it is a bad thing to have to present an government issued I.D. to vote.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Energy and food prices were rising before Russia invaded ukraine...Biden has done nothing to help energy prices...shutting down pipelines (which is the cheapest and safest way to move oil) does nothing but raise costs...constantly tputing (til recently when it began really hurt his poll numbers) that we the green new deal so we can end fossil fuel doesn't encourage investment in refinery or storage capacity both of which would help lower prices...and as energy goes so do retail prices...so yeah Biden has been a huge help with economy...

Again, I have to question people's understanding of economics. Shutting down a pipeline that isn't transporting oil doesn't affect supply or costs. If the oil industry isn't investing in refinery or storage capacity, that actually saves them money. Furthermore, why would the lack of investment in storage capacity have affected short term prices, given that currently reserves are being drained. Are you suggesting that if Exxon were to build more reserve capacity that is currently un-needed this would somehow lower oil prices???

Why producing more domestic oil is so difficult right now

The oil glut of 2020 drove crude prices down to -$38 a barrel, forcing U.S. producers to cap wells and lay off workers. Now, oilfield supplies are scarce and expensive and there's a labor shortage.

www.npr.org

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Joe Biden admin has shut down a ton of pipelines, it’s not just one.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Anyone who claims Trump had no culpability for the events of January 6th is basically stating that there are tens of millions of really stupid Republicans out there. All the ones who are believing this voter fraud bullshit are just as stupid as the ones who believe it but actually went to the Capitol to try and stop the electoral vote.

And all the ones at the Capitol were similarly confused about what Trump meant when he said "fight like hell" to stop the vote. Like mass hypnosis, they all knew to do the same wrong thing. A convenient, yet totally implausible excuse. If you believe it, you're one of the stupid ones.

THAT is the only difference between the two: SOME were extra stupid enough to take action on the lies that they heard and swallowed like Jim Jones' KoolAid.

Nobody has produced any evidence of voter fraud on the scale that would tip the election nor any evidence than fraudulent votes were more like to go to Biden. Was there fraud - yes (there always is). Was Trump and the GOP defrauded: clearly not. So again it's down to conspiracy theories, where the lack evidence just proves there was a cover up.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I am starting to think that these liberal democrats are a bunch of simps.

Nobody has produced evidence, that means it didn't happen. <------ You see this right??? This is acceptable by libertards but the following is not...

Nobody saw the ****, I cannot convict on hearsay. <------- This is unacceptable to libertards.


Come on you two... tell us why having a government issued ID to vote is a bad thing.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Joe Biden admin has shut down a ton of pipelines, it’s not just one.

Really??? Which ones??? I know there were a lot of rumors that Biden was going to shut down pipelines, but I prefer to deal in hard facts.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I am starting to think that these liberal democrats are a bunch of simps.

Nobody has produced evidence, that means it didn't happen. <------ You see this right??? This is acceptable by libertards but the following is not...

Nobody saw the ****, I cannot convict on hearsay. <------- This is unacceptable to libertards.


Come on you two... tell us why having a government issued ID to vote is a bad thing.

I've never said voters shouldn't have a gov't issued ID.

If I were to convict somebody of a crime, I would want some evidence. In the case of the 2020 election the neo-cons have produced no evidence. Even when they've uncovered evidence of voter fraud, they've found it cut both ways. I'm not sure why you brought up the **** analogy as **** is often not prosecuted because of the lack of evidence. In other words, it takes more than just the claim that crime was committed. Are you trying to make "our" point for us???

You're really reaching for straws here. If there are millions of fraudulent votes out there, then there would be evidence. As I said before, there are bipartisan election committees throughout the country monitoring elections just so that neither party can hijack them. The GOP has really lost it's grasp on reality when it comes to 2020.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Here we go with the "straw" theories again. RobGMN, the diick eater, knows why the **** analogy is there.


Hey, what do you call it when a person is behind... Let's say in a race for votes to become President, behind in votes then, suddenly when it comes down to the wire and it is known the amount of votes needed to take the lead then BOOM, they suddenly appear.

A.) Legit votes for a popular guy
B.) Coincidence
C.) Willful voter fraud

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

there is equally tens of millions of really stupid Democrats out there

cities burned, people died, businesses were lost and there is a long list of democrats who had culpability in that too

the stones can be thrown both ways

Absolutely. The BLM riots should be equally condemned along with the failed claims that voter fraud put Biden in office. Unfortunately, in our current political climate the majority of people are willing condemn one action while defending the other. 2 s h i tty situations brought about by political parties and their propaganda networks (CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, conservative talk radio) telling half truths and using anecdotal evidence to breath life into their lies. Unfortunately, people are emotional beings and choose to believe what they want to believe and are too intellectually lazy to ever turn the microscope on themselves and their party.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It has been proven and shown that dead people voted
It has been proven and shown that people voted twice
It has been proven and shown that people voted and gave addresses to places that didn't exist

No................ Nothing to see here. Biden won fair and square. My bad.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Absolutely. The BLM riots should be equally condemned along with the failed claims that voter fraud put Biden in office. Unfortunately, in our current political climate the majority of people are willing condemn one action while defending the other. 2 s h i tty situations brought about by political parties and their propaganda networks (CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, conservative talk radio) telling half truths and using anecdotal evidence to breath life into their lies. Unfortunately, people are emotional beings and choose to believe what they want to believe and are too intellectually lazy to ever turn the microscope on themselves and their party.

True... and some people have no problem playing both sides.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Here we go with the "straw" theories again. RobGMN, the diick eater, knows why the **** analogy is there.


Hey, what do you call it when a person is behind... Let's say in a race for votes to become President, behind in votes then, suddenly when it comes down to the wire and it is know the amount of votes needed to take the lead then BOOM, they suddenly appear.

A.) Legit votes for a popular guy
B.) Coincidence
C.) Willful voter fraud

When Trump defeated Clinton in an upset, the answer was A, the polls were wrong, etc. Furthermore, I followed the election and Biden was projected to win as soon as it became clear he'd be the democratic nominee. Hell, I'd go as far as to say Trump actually lost the election in March/2019 when the lockdown went into effect and prior to Biden announcing his candidacy. Trump knew the pandemic/lockdown was going to damage his re-election bid too and in the Spring of 2019 he started making claims of voter fraud that still haven't found any evidence of 3+ years later. This is also why (IMHO) Trump became unhinged about lockdown protocols and made being anti-lockdown his battle cry. Biden never trailed Trump in the national polls. The electoral maps all projected Biden winning. Trump just wasn't able to pull off the run he had against Hilary, where he won almost every key state he needed. Don't let the conspiracy theorist on the right fill your mind with disinformation and half truths. Just because it's what you want to hear, doesn't make it true. Follow the facts not your heart.

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