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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Can I have a convo with someone who has intelligence outside of the MSM partisan garbage? I don’t even have a political side. God d*mn I love how everybody knows how everybody thinks. All the labels. Some people got so many labels they should work at a grocery store.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Majority per capita or majority overall?

It’s the same.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I guess I’m a GOP member if I don’t wanna get vaccinated

If that’s your understanding of statistics, it might explain some things.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It’s the same.

Well, show me. I know earlier on the year it was a way higher rate of white people getting vaccinated than say black or Hispanic/Latino whatever that classification is.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

If that’s your understanding of statistics, it might explain some things.

The majority of the US is white….and almost certainly the majority of the DNC is also white. Saying the GOP is mostly white seems just like a way to be hateful. I guarantee you most of the DNC is also white, and vaccinations aren’t a racial issue where the “evil white people” aren’t taking them. That’s BS. That’s not how it works. The vaccines aren’t a political issue from Democrat vs republican, it’s just a individual freedom issue. That’s how democide happens is from morons like you.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The majority of the US is white….and almost certainly the majority of the DNC is also white. Saying the GOP is mostly white seems just like a way to be hateful. I guarantee you most of the DNC is also white, and vaccinations aren’t a racial issue where the “evil white people” aren’t taking them. That’s BS. That’s not how it works. The vaccines aren’t a political issue from Democrat vs republican, it’s just a individual freedom issue. That’s how democide happens is from morons like you.

How in the world do you find statistics "hateful"? That's just ridiculous. Years back, the majority of Harlem was black. Is that "hateful"? No, it's statistical fact.

The majority of the GOP is white. Fact, not racism: https://www.pewforum.org/religious-.../among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/
Democrats are all over the map, but 60% white: https://www.pewforum.org/religious-...te/among/party-affiliation/democrat-lean-dem/
Non-hispanic whites make up 60% of the country. Interesting. The Democrat party's demographics are similar to the demographics of the country.

When you are talking 75% or more of those who will not vaccinate being GOP-leaning, it's far too much of a coincidence to think it has nothing to do with political party lines. If it was simply an "individual freedom issue", the makeup of people would follow the party split in the country which is not terribly far from 50/50. That's how stats work to show us that there are underlying factors and commonalities that make people do what they do.
Of the GOP-leaners who refuse to vaccinate, 9 out of 10 think the severity of COVID is "overestimated". Really? 836,000 dead from it, and it's "overestimated"? Wow.

Stats aren't "BS" when you're dealing with millions of people.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

How in the world do you find statistics "hateful"? That's just ridiculous. Years back, the majority of Harlem was black. Is that "hateful"? No, it's statistical fact.

The majority of the GOP is white. Fact, not racism: https://www.pewforum.org/religious-.../among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/
Democrats are all over the map: https://www.pewforum.org/religious-...te/among/party-affiliation/democrat-lean-dem/

When you are talking 75% or more of those who will not vaccinate being GOP-leaning, it's far too much of a coincidence to think it has nothing to do with political party lines. If it was simply an "individual freedom issue", the makeup of people would follow the party split in the country which is not terribly far from 50/50. That's how stats work to show us that there are underlying factors and commonalities that make people do what they do.
Of the GOP-leaners who refuse to vaccinate, 9 out of 10 think the severity of COVID is "overestimated". Really? 836,000 dead from it, and it's "overestimated"? Wow.

Stats aren't "BS" when you're dealing with millions of people.

Well, I don’t want to vaccinate and I’m not part of the GOP or DNC. There’s a lot of people who don’t vote, so basing vaccination preferences off party leaning is leaving out a large portion of America. That’s hardly a full picture of what’s going on.

And people have the right to refuse vaccination, because it’s that individual’s body to live in. It’s that simple: a body is the property of whoever lives within it. It’s totally an individual freedoms issue. And this vaccine isn’t approved for long term safety, and you’re lying if you say it is, because that’s literally impossible, unless you have a time machine to skip forward 10-15 years in the future.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Great info:

Military Documents About Gain of Function Contradict Fauci Testimony Under Oath | Project Veritas

Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

www.projectveritas.com

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Well, I don’t want to vaccinate and I’m not part of the GOP or DNC. There’s a lot of people who don’t vote, so basing vaccination preferences off party leaning is leaving out a large portion of America. That’s hardly a full picture of what’s going on.

And people have the right to refuse vaccination, because it’s that individual’s body to live in. It’s that simple: a body is the property of whoever lives within it. It’s totally an individual freedoms issue. And this vaccine isn’t approved for long term safety, and you’re lying if you say it is, because that’s literally impossible, unless you have a time machine to skip forward 10-15 years in the future.

You don't understand statistics very well? They don't just ignore people who don't vote or belong to a party. Those people just make up a very small percentage.
For example: A group of 100 people. 53% are GOP, 42% are Dems, the rest are no-party/Independent, etc. The majority is GOP no matter how many are "no-party", no matter how you try to slice it.
If 750,000 out of 100,000 people who refuse to vaccinate are GOP or GOP-leaning, that means 75% are GOP, no matter WHAT the remaining 25% are. It doesn't mean they don;' even count the other 25% in the survey. If that were the case, they would claim 100% of the unvaccinated are GOP. They don't.

Your stance on long-term safety is, quite honestly, ridiculous. NOTHING can be proved for long term safety until the long term has passed and real-life use proves it so. With that logic, we can never have anything new produced in our lives.
If you won't accept something that hasn't been proved by time, and you won't allow things to be proved by time, you get nothing.
It's the chicken and egg paradox.
Or better yet, a one-of-a-kind job is created that requires experience on that job to get the job. No one has experience, and since no one can be hired without it, no one can get it.

Make a guess on how many human trials they did the polio vaccine on.

Make sense?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Great info:

Military Documents About Gain of Function Contradict Fauci Testimony Under Oath | Project Veritas

Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

www.projectveritas.com

Honestly, you're tossing credibility right out the window when using Project Veritas as a source of knowledge and sharing.
They have no credibility.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You don't understand statistics very well? They don't just ignore people who don't vote or belong to a party. Those people just make up a very small percentage.
For example: A group of 100 people. 53% are GOP, 42% are Dems, the rest are no-party/Independent, etc. The majority is GOP no matter how many are "no-party", no matter how you try to slice it.
If 750,000 out of 100,000 people who refuse to vaccinate are GOP or GOP-leaning, that means 75% are GOP, no matter WHAT the remaining 25% are. It doesn't mean they don;' even count the other 25% in the survey. If that were the case, they would claim 100% of the unvaccinated are GOP. They don't.

Your stance on long-term safety is, quite honestly, ridiculous. NOTHING can be proved for long term safety until the long term has passed and real-life use proves it so. With that logic, we can never have anything new produced in our lives.
If you won't accept something that hasn't been proved by time, and you won't allow things to be proved by time, you get nothing.
It's the chicken and egg paradox.
Or better yet, a one-of-a-kind job is created that requires experience on that job to get the job. No one has experience, and since no one can be hired without it, no one can get it.

Make a guess on how many human trials they did the polio vaccine on.

Make sense?

Long term safety trials aren’t performed on literally the entire world all at once. Long term safety trials are performed on a relatively small portion of the population, not the entire world population.

What happens if death is a long term side effect that we don’t know about, because there’s no long term safety trials already done? That would be a lot of dead people. I’m not saying that death is or isn’t a side effect; I’m just simply stating what should be extremely obvious to anyone. It’s terrifying to me that this specific point isn’t an immediate red flag in everyone’s mind.

There’s all sorts of things that humanity has improperly used as medicine over time, and many people suffered greatly from bad health effects from improper bodily intake of certain harmful substances thought originally to be healthy. MRNA technology could very easily be one of these mistakes, or it could just be like any other vaccine. Who knows? I guess we’ll know if the vaccine is long term dangerous or not as time unfolds.

I don’t get why people would want to be experimented on by giant corporations, especially with the way MRNA functions as synthetic genetics developed with massive help from AI systems. The human race has to have the help of things like AI and machine learning to sequence these genetics due to the sheer complexity of genetics. This indicates that maybe there might be some problems with this technology, considering we can’t produce the products without massive computer aid. The MRNA injections are experimental genetic technology, and you have no idea what it’s going to do to your body in the long run

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Long term safety trials aren’t performed on literally the entire world all at once. Long term safety trials are performed on a relatively small portion of the population, not the entire world population.

What happens if death is a long term side effect that we don’t know about, because there’s no long term safety trials already done? That would be a lot of dead people. I’m not saying that death is or isn’t a side effect; I’m just simply stating what should be extremely obvious to anyone. It’s terrifying to me that this specific point isn’t an immediate red flag in everyone’s mind.

There’s all sorts of things that humanity has improperly used as medicine over time, and many people suffered greatly from bad health effects from improper bodily intake of certain harmful substances thought originally to be healthy. MRNA technology could very easily be one of these mistakes, or it could just be like any other vaccine. Who knows? I guess we’ll know if the vaccine is long term dangerous or not as time unfolds.

I don’t get why people would want to be experimented on by giant corporations, especially with the way MRNA functions as synthetic genetics developed with massive help from AI systems. The human race has to have the help of things like AI and machine learning to sequence these genetics due to the sheer complexity of genetics. This indicates that maybe there might be some problems with this technology, considering we can’t produce the products without massive computer aid. The MRNA injections are experimental genetic technology, and you have no idea what it’s going to do to your body in the long run

And we fall back on the argument of letting people die in staggering numbers while we wait for long term testing to be completed.
MRNA technology is 31 years old. Should we wait 31 more years for Covid testing to show long term effects while people die?

It’s a Sophie’s choice. You are choosing death over current science.
In the history of vaccines people chose science over death and suffering.

Exactly how many vaccines have been a failure that caused more harm than they prevented ?

 

[SlugButter]

I am interested in the info behind this. I can think of Hiroshima. Atrocious, but done for the greater good.
Should they or should they not have done it?

Hitler labeled the Jews as dirty and harmful to the economics for Germans….greater good. Stalin killed a million Russians..,for the greater good. Americans kept slaves to further the economic good of white Americans. Mercy killings because your child is sinning is for their own good, so they go to heaven. I’d actually like to know of a mass atrocity that wasn’t done by the masses for the greater good. It would be a much shorter list.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Can I have a convo with someone who has intelligence outside of the MSM partisan garbage? I don’t even have a political side. God d*mn I love how everybody knows how everybody thinks. All the labels. Some people got so many labels they should work at a grocery store.

Dont be a hypocrite bro. You get your news and info from far rights resources. You are no better than the people you talk shit about.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Hitler labeled the Jews as dirty and harmful to the economics for Germans….greater good. Stalin killed a million Russians..,for the greater good. Americans kept slaves to further the economic good of white Americans. Mercy killings because your child is sinning is for their own good, so they go to heaven. I’d actually like to know of a mass atrocity that wasn’t done by the masses for the greater good. It would be a much shorter list.

You are walking an extremely fine line their bro. Greater good? Debatable. Best I can give you is 25% right