What is?

[SlugButter]

You are walking an extremely fine line their bro. Greater good? Debatable. Best I can give you is 25% right

That’s just fake news bro

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

And we fall back on the argument of letting people die in staggering numbers while we wait for long term testing to be completed.
MRNA technology is 31 years old. Should we wait 31 more years for Covid testing to show long term effects while people die?

It’s a Sophie’s choice. You are choosing death over current science.
In the history of vaccines people chose science over death and suffering.

Exactly how many vaccines have been a failure that caused more harm than they prevented ?

Are you saying anyone who doesn’t take the vaccine is going to die? Lol “choosing death over current science”

What % of a chance do I have of dying from covid? How many people out of 330 million or whatever have been counted as covid deaths? 800,000 supposed deaths / 330,000,000 Americans = 0.0024 which is .24% of the population.

Oh no!!! The horror!!!! .24% of America has died so far

1/4 of 1% of the population has supposedly died of covid over about 2 years!!!!! Holy hell, that’s the deadliest thing that ever happened ever! I need 69 experimental injections right now!!!!

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Ban all sodas and fast food restaurants!!!

“About 659,000 people in the United States die from heart disease each year—that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.”

Heart Disease Facts | cdc.gov

Learn facts about how race, ethnicity, age, and other risk factors can contribute to heart disease risk.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The gov will mandate a vaccine but won’t mandate some lazy fat f*ck to walk 5 mins a day

 

[SlugButter]

Ban all sodas and fast food restaurants!!!

“About 659,000 people in the United States die from heart disease each year—that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.”

Heart Disease Facts | cdc.gov

Learn facts about how race, ethnicity, age, and other risk factors can contribute to heart disease risk.

www.cdc.gov

A bunch of those people who would’ve died from heart disease might have died from covid first. It seems to be taking those people out.

 

[SlugButter]

There are so many ways numbers can be played with. If a person dies of heart disease but had Covid when it happened, was it a Covid death?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The gov will mandate a vaccine but won’t mandate some lazy fat f*ck to walk 5 mins a day

“The researchers estimated that more than 900,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred through November 2020. Based on their model, 30% of these hospitalizations were attributable to obesity, 26% to hypertension, 21% to diabetes, and 12% to heart failure. These people would still have been infected with COVID-19, but likely would not have been sick enough to need hospitalization.”

Most COVID-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions

A study estimated that nearly two-thirds of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.S. could be attributed to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure.

www.nih.gov

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

You are slipping bro. You're obviously running out of arguments to argue with yourself about. Most of the last page or two is nonsense. Just saying.

 

[SlugButter]

“The researchers estimated that more than 900,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred through November 2020. Based on their model, 30% of these hospitalizations were attributable to obesity, 26% to hypertension, 21% to diabetes, and 12% to heart failure. These people would still have been infected with COVID-19, but likely would not have been sick enough to need hospitalization.”

Most COVID-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions

A study estimated that nearly two-thirds of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.S. could be attributed to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure.

www.nih.gov

That’s 90% of the hospitalizations. Are you sure that’s correct?

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Find something else to talk about and quit making yourself look so stupid. Like c'mon man

 

[SlugButter]

“The researchers estimated that more than 900,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred through November 2020. Based on their model, 30% of these hospitalizations were attributable to obesity, 26% to hypertension, 21% to diabetes, and 12% to heart failure. These people would still have been infected with COVID-19, but likely would not have been sick enough to need hospitalization.”

Most COVID-19 hospitalizations due to four conditions

A study estimated that nearly two-thirds of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.S. could be attributed to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure.

www.nih.gov

Many of these people would have all 4 of those diseases at the same time. I’m wondering how these numbers are counted. It makes it look like 90% of the people in the hospital had these diseases, but many of them could be counted more than once. Numbers can lie both ways.

 

[SlugButter]

71 members of congress have tested positive for covid. All these people are vaccinated. What was the efficacy rate for the vaccine again? Mandating a vaccine that isn’t working doesn’t seem like a very good strategy to “end the virus”.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Many of these people would have all 4 of those diseases at the same time. I’m wondering how these numbers are counted. It makes it look like 90% of the people in the hospital had these diseases, but many of them could be counted more than once. Numbers can lie both ways.

I was simply trying to show a lack of government care about heart disease and obesity, and how that lack of care has lead to more covid deaths, if we’re viewing it from a “what should be mandated” point of view.

“Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said 75% of vaccinated adults who died of COVID-19, as recorded in a newly released study, had at least four comorbidities, sparking an outpouring of commentary from people surprised by her statement and others saying, "I told you so."”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ovid-19-deaths-had-four-or-more-comorbidities

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There are so many ways numbers can be played with. If a person dies of heart disease but had Covid when it happened, was it a Covid death?

No it isn’t. The whole discussion occurred long ago and was proved fake news.
Unless you think all coroners, pathologists, and anyone else who can legally fill out a death certificate has suddenly “gone to the dark side” and is falsifying the info?
That falls under conspiracy fantasy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

71 members of congress have tested positive for covid. All these people are vaccinated. What was the efficacy rate for the vaccine again? Mandating a vaccine that isn’t working doesn’t seem like a very good strategy to “end the virus”.

How many have been hospitalized?