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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I raise you a John Hopkins:

“According to Johns Hopkins University’s data on COVID-19 deaths, since Jan. 1, there have been approximately 353,000 deaths from the pandemic. This is about a thousand more COVID-19 deaths than in all of 2020.

That is to say, more people have died from COVID-19 under President Joe Biden than under former President Donald Trump.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...id-under-president-biden-than-president-trump

This link is an opinion piece in the Washington Examiner. Remember when you accused my posts of being op-ed?
I see your op-Ed and raise you some factual statistics.

Kaiser health: https://www.google.com/amp/s/khn.or...s-on-last-day-of-donald-trump-presidency/amp/

We are now at 788,000 deaths total.
Subtract 353,000 deaths under Biden’s tenure from that 788,000 total and you get (say it with me) 435,000.
In all walks of mathematics, 435,000 is a bigger number than 353,000, no matter who’s opinion says otherwise.

This is your opportunity to show us some new math that makes 353,000 more than 435,000.
Go.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

@Buck do yourself a favor and read this article. It's an easy read. You will probably call it "Fake" or just flat out not believe it and that's fine.

Scary Reports of Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccination Aren’t What They Seem

Intentional misrepresentation of data aims to dissuade people from getting COVID-19 vaccination.

www.muhealth.org

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

This is an opinion piece into Washington Examiner. Remember when you accuse my posts of being op-ed?
I see your op-Ed and raise you some factual statistics.

Kaiser health: https://www.google.com/amp/s/khn.or...s-on-last-day-of-donald-trump-presidency/amp/

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We are at 788,000 deaths total.
Subtract 353,000 deaths under Biden’s tenure from that 788,000 and you get (say it with me) 435,000.
In all walks of mathematics, 435,000 is a bigger number than 353,000, no matter who’s opinion says otherwise.

This is your opportunity to show us some new math that makes 353,000 more than 435,000.
Go.

Biden’s numbers will surpass Trumps at the same rate if they haven’t already. I’m posting what I see and I’m just trolling your partisan feels to ask you....

Why are the covid vaccines so deadly?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

@Buck do yourself a favor and read this article. It's an easy read. You will probably call it "Fake" or just flat out not believe it and that's fine.

http://[URL]https://www.muhealth.or...ing-covid-19-vaccination-arent-what-they-seem

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Article isn’t relevant now:

“Since December 2020, more than 350 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in the U.S., and VAERS has received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%), according to the CDC. (Numbers as of Aug. 26, 2021.)”

It’s December.

That whole article basically tries to convince you that vaccine deaths aren’t vaccine deaths.

It’s not even close.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Biden’s numbers will surpass Trumps at the same rate if they haven’t already. I’m posting what I see and I’m just trolling your partisan feels to ask you....

Why are the covid vaccines so deadly?

The vaccines aren't deadly. You aren't understanding how the vaccine deaths are being reported. If a 90 year old gets the vaccine dies 90 days later of something else then that is counted as a vaccine death. You have to read the article/study that I posted.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-storie...ing-covid-19-vaccination-arent-what-they-seem

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Article isn’t relevant now:

“Since December 2020, more than 350 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in the U.S., and VAERS has received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%), according to the CDC. (Numbers as of Aug. 26, 2021.)”

It’s December.

That whole article basically tries to convince you that vaccine deaths aren’t vaccine deaths.

It’s not even close.

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You have to read how the vaccine deaths are reported. Somebody could die 6 months after being vaccinated of something not even related to Covid but it's reported as a vaccine death.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Biden’s numbers will surpass Trumps at the same rate if they haven’t already. I’m posting what I see and I’m just trolling your partisan feels to ask you....

Why are the covid vaccines so deadly?

Why do you insist on posting data that you think supports your argument, but does not?

“ VAERS is set up to capture potential adverse events caused by vaccines. It is the best tool we have to find what may be previously unrecognized and extraordinarily rare adverse events that may eventually be linked.
VAERS cannot and does not determine whether a vaccine caused something. The CDC states this clearly in their disclaimer: "A report to VAERS does not mean that the vaccine caused the adverse event, only that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination."

You post a graphic to prove numbers of deaths when the graphic does no such thing.

Maybe try to stick to facts instead of op-Ed articles, memes, conspiracy fantasies, false conclusions?

I can imagine you taking the calculations your box modeling software gives you, and completely changing them in order to be contrary to facts and science.

Man, your fail is so strong it’s hard to believe.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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Yeah, the sky isn’t blue and grass isn’t green. Let people make up their minds as they wish. This vaccine was never approved to be safe for use, so the deaths aren’t a surprise.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, the sky isn’t blue and grass isn’t green. Let people make up their minds as they wish. This vaccine was never approved to be safe for use, so the deaths aren’t a surprise.

Triggered much? It suxx when your argument gets debunked by facts. Relax, it's not that big of a deal. Don't you hate when facts get in the way of an opinion?

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

The vaccines aren't deadly. You aren't understanding how the vaccine deaths are being reported. If a 90 year old gets the vaccine dies 90 days later of something else then that is counted as a vaccine death. You have to read the article/study that I posted.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-storie...ing-covid-19-vaccination-arent-what-they-seem

Wow!!!! Yet a person already in the hospital that is dying contracts covid and it’s a “covid death”. You are ok with that but not ok with how the vaccine deaths are reported?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Wow!!!! Yet a person already in the hospital that is dying contracts covid and it’s a “covid death”. You are ok with that but not ok with how the vaccine deaths are reported?

I said a long time ago that I had a talk with my nurse friend and he told me that was how our health care system was set up. I told him that I didn't agree with it and he told me that he didn't either but the rules are the rules. I don't have to agree with them I just have to accept them. I can't change them.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Wow!!!! Yet a person already in the hospital that is dying contracts covid and it’s a “covid death”. You are ok with that but not ok with how the vaccine deaths are reported?

It’s not how it works in a hospital, but let’s not get too factual. Bucks head will explode.

Reported by Fox News (just in case someone wants to scream “MSM Fake news! Stop watching CNN!!!”): https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox11o...ed-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths

“But just because someone has COVID-19 when they die does not mean it’s always counted in state data.
“It is possible for a person to die with COVID-19 and not have COVID-19 contribute to their death," said Dr. Ryan Westergaard, chief medical officer of the DHS Bureau of Communicable Diseases.

He gave the example of someone dying in a car accident while having COVID-19.
“Those would not be counted as COVID-related deaths if in the expert opinion of the person certifying the death, it did not contribute to the death," Westergaard said.

Hmmm, so a person with COVID gets decapitated in a car accident but they don’t list COVID as a contributing factor?
Yet EVERY conservative knows someone who has a friend who saw it actually happen!

BULLSHIT

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

It’s not how it works in a hospital, but let’s not get too factual. Bucks head will explode.

Reported by Fox News (just in case someone wants to scream “MSM Fake news! Stop watching CNN!!!”): https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox11o...ed-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths

“But just because someone has COVID-19 when they die does not mean it’s always counted in state data.
“It is possible for a person to die with COVID-19 and not have COVID-19 contribute to their death," said Dr. Ryan Westergaard, chief medical officer of the DHS Bureau of Communicable Diseases.

He gave the example of someone dying in a car accident while having COVID-19.
“Those would not be counted as COVID-related deaths if in the expert opinion of the person certifying the death, it did not contribute to the death," Westergaard said.

Hmmm, so a person with COVID gets decapitated in a car accident but they don’t list COVID as a contributing factor?
Yet EVERY conservative knows someone who has a friend who saw it actually happen!

BULLSHIT

Buck does not believe in proven facts. He has chose to believe in conspiracy theories with no factual basis. And that is his choice. And he defends that choice vigorously.

 

[Firewalker]

I raise you a John Hopkins:

“According to Johns Hopkins University’s data on COVID-19 deaths, since Jan. 1, there have been approximately 353,000 deaths from the pandemic. This is about a thousand more COVID-19 deaths than in all of 2020.

That is to say, more people have died from COVID-19 under President Joe Biden than under former President Donald Trump.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...id-under-president-biden-than-president-trump

Buck that says since Jan 1st. Biden was not president Jan 1st. Bidens numbers don't start until Jan 21st and the minute he is sworn into office. That was my point about the number and Jan. From the time the election happened till right before Biden was sworn in 60 some thousand deaths happened under trump.

Numbers show Trump had more die then Biden up till Nov 30th. People like that guy who wrote that piece can not count in numbers of deaths for Biden from Jan 1st doesn't work that way.

And I know you don't care who has died more and what not from our talks outside of this place.