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[RobGMN Premium Member]

What makes you a better person than someone else? Is it just the fear you have that makes you good? You’re a punk *****.

You don't feel you are a better person than a ******, or a woman-beater? How about a thief, or a murderer? How about someone who does things for society (like volunteer work), compared to someone who tries to turn those things into a negative ("you must hate your family since you volunteer your time")? Do you feel you are better than someone who does things to hurt society and doesn't give a shlt about the future for even his own spawn?

Within your posts you have shown that you feel superior to others more than once. Don't try to play that game of accusing me of being the bad guy for doing something you have done yourself.
Glass houses and stones are not good bedfellows.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You have no idea what kind of person I am fella. All you have are assumptions based on post on an internet website. You haven't the slightest clue what I have done in my life, the people I have interacted with, the people who's lives I touched. You are an internet troll who joined this website to bolster your ego and argue with anyone you can argue with. I joined this website because I am a fan of car audio and I like interacting with people.

I hope you really are a better person than me. That means you have done some pretty amazing things and you have touched many peoples lives for the better. If this is indeed true, good for you.

Unless you posted nothing but lies and a completely made-up existence here, you have posted plenty of information for me to shape my opinion of you. The list is not pretty, but it is all I can go on b/c it is all things you have said.

If it's all lies and fantasy and you are really not the person you portray yourself to be with your posts, then I will also say "good for you" with a genuine salute.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You don't feel you are a better person than a ******, or a woman-beater? How about a thief, or a murderer? How about someone who does things for society (like volunteer work), compared to someone who tries to turn those things into a negative ("you must hate your family since you volunteer your time")? Do you feel you are better than someone who does things to hurt society and doesn't give a shlt about the future for even his own spawn?

Within your posts you have shown that you feel superior to others more than once. Don't try to play that game of accusing me of being the bad guy for doing something you have done yourself.
Glass houses and stones are not good bedfellows.

Ok, you keep drifting off in threads about specific topics.

You have stated that you don't want some "nonvaxxer" infecting you in your defense of being ok with people dying from the vaccines themselves. You have stated that you do "volunteer work" and the way you just spoke about it you think volunteering makes you better than someone else. Just these two topics prove you are selfish and these things are all about you. Set down your bag of rocks, you're surrounded by glass fella. Whatever happened in your life, whatever person(s) have made you feel you need to tell yourself "I am better than them" let it go. It's not helping you.

Your path in life is your path. Just because another person is not on your path doesn't mean their path is wrong. Just because you have chosen to follow your political views does not mean another persons political views are wrong, They are just not your views. Different views are not automatically an invitation to insult and fight the person who's views differ from yours.

When I think about whatever, I consider all possibilities I can think of with an open mind and from different possible views.

Example:
A woman said she was *****.
Did she file a police report and have a **** kit done? - Yes
How, when and where did this alleged **** happen? - At a party at a friends house at night in the bathroom
Were there any witnesses? - No
Who allegedly ***** her? - Ex-Boyfriend
Was he arrested? - Yes
Was there drugs or alcohol at this party? - Yes
Was she drinking - Yes

The ex-boyfriend was at the party with his current girlfriend who was at one time a friend of his ex-girlfriend. It came out later that the **** kit did not produce his semen and the examination showed no signs of ****. Others at the party would testify that the ex-girlfriend was drunk and was talking trash about her ex-boyfriend and his current girlfriend. It was also stated that there was a verbal argument between the two and the ex-girlfriend was told to leave the party. The next day the ex-boyfriend was arrested and charged with ****. He spent time in jail until it went to trial. The ex-girlfriend later admitted, under oath that she made the **** up because she was "drunk".

What, if anything I advocate is that WOMEN LIE ALL THE TIME!! So don't believe what someone says unless you see it with your OWN EYES or you have irrefutable proof.

As such just because Democrats keep saying the vaccine is safe and EVERYONE needs to be vaccinated doesn't mean it's true. Disputed by facts that the vaccine has killed people who have taken it. Facts that people have still caught COVID and died from it AFTER being FULLY vaccinated. Facts that COVID can still be spread by those who have been vaccinated. Facts that unvaccinated people who have caught covid and survived, happens.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The same as wearing a fu*king seatbelt: risk reduction.
No coincidence that almost every hospital admission with COVID is an unvaccinated person.
Get vexed, stay out of the hospital, be less of a burden on society, be far less likely to cause OTHERS to be a burden on society.
Not to mention reducing pain and suffering of the ill AND their families.

Not true. The CDC is clearly manipulating statistics. You can go on the CDC's website and see that they don't count people to be fully vaccinated until 2 weeks after their actual 2 doses, which IS full vaccination. Doesn't mean it's "working" the day of the second dose, but you've still been fully vaccinated. This little tweak in their statistics would allow them to label anyone who's in the hospital now and has been fully vaccinated and hasn't been fully vaccinated for 2 weeks as an non-vaccinated person.

To convince me that almost every COVID hospital admission is from the non-vaccinated, then you'd have to show me whether or not the CDC is counting people who HAVE been fully vaccinated, but are within two weeks of being so. The UK and Australia governments have both released documentation on how the fully vaccinated are the ones in the hospitals and dying since the vaccinations for COVID began, basically. And that wouldn't surprise me, considering the vaccine has had zero long term studies, other than 1/3 of the entire world's population now being the safety trails for these vaccines. It wouldn't surprise me if the CDC is lying. Wouldn't surprise me, at all. Whoever runs the CDC and close affiliates will probably get jobs at one of these companies that they're shielding.

Speaking of shielding from consequences, does nobody find it strange that the vaccine makers can't be sued for injuring people with their vaccines? I mean, only 1/3 of the entire worlds population has gotten a double dose of these experimental "vaccines." Imagine how many people you could hurt out of the 2+ billion you just injected, just because you're not liable for damages. They could be injecting whatever, because they're not liable for it.

More Vaccinated People Are Dying of COVID in England Than Unvaccinated – Here’s Why

Even with high vaccination rates, older adults remain at higher risk of death from COVID. This doesn’t mean vaccines don’t work—it confirms they’re protecting most, just not all. More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health En

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Covid Surges In 4 Of 5 Most Vaccinated Countries—Here’s Why The U.S. Should Worry

Countries with much higher vaccination rates than the U.S. are experiencing some of the worst coronavirus spikes.

www.forbes.com

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Ok, you keep drifting off in threads about specific topics.
Thunderdome. It's what it is. But if specificity concerns you, why the **** discussion below?

You have stated that you don't want some "nonvaxxer" infecting you in your defense of being ok with people dying from the vaccines themselves. You have stated that you do "volunteer work" and the way you just spoke about it you think volunteering makes you better than someone else. Just these two topics prove you are selfish and these things are all about you. Set down your bag of rocks, you're surrounded by glass fella. Whatever happened in your life, whatever person(s) have made you feel you need to tell yourself "I am better than them" let it go. It's not helping you.
If being concerned for my well-being and the well-being of my family is "selfish", then I am selfish as all f*ck. I am employed full-time and then some for the safety and well-being of me and mine, instead of taking the easiest route possible and just surviving. Selfish. I don't do things in society that will negatively impact others and infringe on their right. Incredibly selfish of me.

Your path in life is your path. Just because another person is not on your path doesn't mean their path is wrong. Just because you have chosen to follow your political views does not mean another persons political views are wrong, They are just not your views. Different views are not automatically an invitation to insult and fight the person who's views differ from yours.
We are all on different paths. But I will gladly judge someone's path when it's incongruous with other things that they do in life. Analogy: Don't be a preacher railing against human sexuality while you are hiding in a closet at night watching two female hookers do things in your bedroom. It's hypocrisy. *cough* Swaggart *cough*

When I think about whatever, I consider all possibilities I can think of with an open mind and from different possible views.

Example:
A woman said she was *****.
Did she file a police report and have a **** kit done? - Yes
How, when and where did this alleged **** happen? - At a party at a friends house at night in the bathroom
Were there any witnesses? - No
Who allegedly ***** her? - Ex-Boyfriend
Was he arrested? - Yes
Was there drugs or alcohol at this party? - Yes
Was she drinking - Yes

The ex-boyfriend was at the party with his current girlfriend who was at one time a friend of his ex-girlfriend. It came out later that the **** kit did not produce his semen and the examination showed no signs of ****. Others at the party would testify that the ex-girlfriend was drunk and was talking trash about her ex-boyfriend and his current girlfriend. It was also stated that there was a verbal argument between the two and the ex-girlfriend was told to leave the party. The next day the ex-boyfriend was arrested and charged with ****. He spent time in jail until it went to trial. The ex-girlfriend later admitted, under oath that she made the **** up because she was "drunk".

What, if anything I advocate is that WOMEN LIE ALL THE TIME!! So don't believe what someone says unless you see it with your OWN EYES or you have irrefutable proof.
I'm not sure what this story is about, but it follows my line of reasoning that I have used all along here: I don't accept feelings, beliefs, opinions, faiths as proof. Not only do people lie, they form those things without any due diligence or critical thinking, usually b/c they WANT to believe.
You indicate the guy was later vindicated by "proof" to support your statement that "women lie all the time". I have provided 100% irrefutable proof to you that you have been wrong about things, but you deny the proof and still insist you are right. Do you not see the cognitive dissonance there?


As such just because Democrats keep saying the vaccine is safe and EVERYONE needs to be vaccinated doesn't mean it's true. Disputed by facts that the vaccine has killed people who have taken it. Facts that people have still caught COVID and died from it AFTER being FULLY vaccinated. Facts that COVID can still be spread by those who have been vaccinated. Facts that unvaccinated people who have caught covid and survived, happens
The fact that you are conflating medical science with politics (and you are far from the first Republican to do so) is a good indicator of why you approach this whole pandemic the away you do. To think science gives a flying rat's @ss whether or not you BELIEVE, or whether or not you are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent, etc, speaks volumes.
Analogy: PLENTY of people claim seatbelts do not save lives, and will point to the fact that some people still die while wearing a seatbelt in a car accident, and that some may even have survived had they NOT worn a seatbelt. The outliers. They will completely disregard the irrefutable proof of all the studies and the statistics that show dramatic changes after seatbelt laws took effect, because it doesn't match their FEELINGS about the subject. Kind of like crab fisherman who believe in good or bad luck based on something as silly as which foot goes on the boat first.

If you want to use statistics to support an anti-vax argument, then you can't only use the stats that support your argument. You use the outliers (5,000 possibly dead from 389,000,000 vaccinations = .00001%) to talk of the horrors of the vax, but in a previous breath you indicate 700,000 dead is not a big deal because it shows a "99% survival rate". If you are worried about the 5,000 dead (a 99.9999% survival rate), then you should be REALLY worried about the 700,000 dead, when the stats already show the vax is going to reduce casualties by a huge amount. But you are not. So does death concern you, or does it not? You can't choose both.

So yes, seatbelts may actually CAUSE suffering or death in rare circumstances that cannot be controlled, but in the much bigger picture, they PREVENT suffering and death in the vast majority of accidents. That is the "greater good".
Do we forgo seatbelts in order to prevent the incredibly rare circumstances they may cause, while the death rate from accidents spikes 1,000x?

The vax IS the seatbelt.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Have you ever heard of the "greater good"?

Have you ever heard of Communism?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Have you ever heard of Communism?

You are equating doing things that benefit the majority of people to Communism?
You really ARE lost.

I knwo you think you know what Communism is, but countries that claim to be Communist AREN'T: "a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state"
Those "communist" countries do not fit the definition at all.

BTW - Did you hear about your fellow theorist Alex Jones? His BS ain't working out so good for him.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This fuggin guy. I have to again rest my case. Argue, argue, argue. No comprehension what so ever.

The point is, just because a woman yells "****" doesn't mean it happened. Just because politicians yell the vaccines are safe and everyone needs to get it, doesn't mean it should happen. THERE IS PROOF THAT THE VACCINES ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!!

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You are equating doing things that benefit the majority of people to Communism?

No, because that's not what you're saying, either. You're not talking about a greater good. A greater good is a fallacy. There's no one greater good that helps everyone the same; at best, a greater good is going to be an average of everyone, which isn't really good for anyone.

A greater good idea comes from authoritarian, totalitarian, and theocratic belief systems. It's authoritarians emotionally manipulating people for their own will. See, the greater good is a centralized system. Centralized systems don't work for controlling mass amounts of people. Centralized systems always collapse, because humanity and Earth is too diverse to follow one plan across the planet. The best system is where you let people live freely, because freedom bears the best fruits out of humanity.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, because that's not what you're saying, either. You're not talking about a greater good. A greater good is a fallacy. There's no one greater good that helps everyone the same; at best, a greater good is going to be an average of everyone, which isn't really good for anyone.

A greater good idea comes from authoritarian, totalitarian, and theocratic belief systems. It's authoritarians emotionally manipulating people for their own will. See, the greater good is a centralized system. Centralized systems don't work for controlling mass amounts of people. Centralized systems always collapse, because humanity and Earth is too diverse to follow one plan across the planet. The best system is where you let people live freely, because freedom bears the best fruits out of humanity.

Uhhhmmm, the "greater good" is that which helps the majority, even though it may come at an expense to others. it is not a fallacy because it does NOT mean "help everyone the same".
How can you not know this?

it has NOTHING to do with mind control, authoritarian or totalitarian systems, centralized systems.
It's very nature is the recognition that you CAN'T do what is best for every single person, so you do what it best for the majority: the GREATER GOOD.
Did you ever notice that computer displays are not made for the seriously nearsighted OR farsighted? Or that every car isn;t made to fit Shaquille or the world's shortest woman?
They are made for the vast majority of users. The "greater good".
In this case, "greater" means numbers, not great as in "awesome".
This is stuff a third grader probably knows.

the greater good - a general advantage that you can only gain by losing or harming something that is considered less important
And don't be confused by "less important", esp. if death is in the discussion. But the FACT is that something that can prevent 1million deaths but at the cost of 10,000 deaths is the "greater good" and it's how things have been since before humans entered the picture. "Sacrifice the few to save the many", I think was the phrase.
Ever notice how the weakest gazelle is taken down while the others escape? That's nature's example of the greater good, even if the weak gazelle doesn't choose it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Any takers on what the greater good for this site is....

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Any takers on what the greater good for this site is....

I bet a nickel it's the discussion of car audio. Probably 2:11 odds on my bet though.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Uhhhmmm, the "greater good" is that which helps the majority, even though it may come at an expense to others. it is not a fallacy because it does NOT mean "help everyone the same".
How can you not know this?

it has NOTHING to do with mind control, authoritarian or totalitarian systems, centralized systems.
It's very nature is the recognition that you CAN'T do what is best for every single person, so you do what it best for the majority: the GREATER GOOD.
Did you ever notice that computer displays are not made for the seriously nearsighted OR farsighted? Or that every car isn;t made to fit Shaquille or the world's shortest woman?
They are made for the vast majority of users. The "greater good".
In this case, "greater" means numbers, not great as in "awesome".
This is stuff a third grader probably knows.

the greater good - a general advantage that you can only gain by losing or harming something that is considered less important
And don't be confused by "less important", esp. if death is in the discussion. But the FACT is that something that can prevent 1million deaths but at the cost of 10,000 deaths is the "greater good" and it's how things have been since before humans entered the picture. "Sacrifice the few to save the many", I think was the phrase.
Ever notice how the weakest gazelle is taken down while the others escape? That's nature's example of the greater good, even if the weak gazelle doesn't choose it.

Computer screens are made to broadcast visible light, lol. Has nothing to do with the "greater good."

The greater good sounds like some type of dystopian nightmare where some authority that doesn't give 2 sh*ts about you gets to run your life. No thanks. Live and let live. Trying to top-down control society is an elitist view point. Most normal and calm and sane people want to just live their lives the way they see fit and leave others alone that they don't know.

It's kinda like this: humans aren't machines or computers, and humans have their own, individual minds, so everyone has the ability to think thoughts for themselves and determine the best lifestyle and actions for themselves. Nobody knows what's best for an individual's life better than that individual. Centralized systems are the only way you get a fake "greater good." That's just a BS control system, and it doesn't run society well, because society is way too complicated. Centralized systems often fall behind the changes of individual people and their influences on society. It's like joining a borg, and it's a hive of evil people trying to climb to the top of that centralized structure to have control over others. That's just human nature. Has nothing to do with a conspiracy or a theory. Centralized control always fails the people underneath that system.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Computer screens are made to broadcast visible light, lol. Has nothing to do with the "greater good."

The greater good sounds like some type of dystopian nightmare where some authority that doesn't give 2 sh*ts about you gets to run your life. No thanks. Live and let live. Trying to top-down control society is an elitist view point. Most normal and calm and sane people want to just live their lives the way they see fit and leave others alone that they don't know.

It's kinda like this: humans aren't machines or computers, and humans have their own, individual minds, so everyone has the ability to think thoughts for themselves and determine the best lifestyle and actions for themselves. Nobody knows what's best for an individual's life better than that individual. Centralized systems are the only way you get a fake "greater good." That's just a BS control system, and it doesn't run society well, because society is way too complicated. Centralized systems often fall behind the changes of individual people and their influences on society. It's like joining a borg, and it's a hive of evil people trying to climb to the top of that centralized structure to have control over others. That's just human nature. Has nothing to do with a conspiracy or a theory. Centralized control always fails the people underneath that system.

I was talking about the size of the "standard" typeface the screens display. The one that matches their resolution best. It's not microscopic, nor is it gargantuan. It is the "one size fist most", which is also the "greater good". It "fits most" not "fits all".

Kind of like sub boxes that do not fit every single vehicle out there, but will fit most. Kind of like airline hubs in major cities instead of every town in America. Kind of like highways that feed major metropolises but might be an hour from a smaller city. Kind of like having a WalMart in a city of 40,000, but not in an area where there is one person per 3 square miles. Kind of like a Metra install kit that will fit 95% of Toyotas, but not ALL Toyotas.

Honestly: are you REALLY that confused about the concept and think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy to control humanity, or do you just post really weird shlt to amuse yourself?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Not true. The CDC is clearly manipulating statistics. You can go on the CDC's website and see that they don't count people to be fully vaccinated until 2 weeks after their actual 2 doses, which IS full vaccination. Doesn't mean it's "working" the day of the second dose, but you've still been fully vaccinated. This little tweak in their statistics would allow them to label anyone who's in the hospital now and has been fully vaccinated and hasn't been fully vaccinated for 2 weeks as an non-vaccinated person.

To convince me that almost every COVID hospital admission is from the non-vaccinated, then you'd have to show me whether or not the CDC is counting people who HAVE been fully vaccinated, but are within two weeks of being so. The UK and Australia governments have both released documentation on how the fully vaccinated are the ones in the hospitals and dying since the vaccinations for COVID began, basically. And that wouldn't surprise me, considering the vaccine has had zero long term studies, other than 1/3 of the entire world's population now being the safety trails for these vaccines. It wouldn't surprise me if the CDC is lying. Wouldn't surprise me, at all. Whoever runs the CDC and close affiliates will probably get jobs at one of these companies that they're shielding.

Speaking of shielding from consequences, does nobody find it strange that the vaccine makers can't be sued for injuring people with their vaccines? I mean, only 1/3 of the entire worlds population has gotten a double dose of these experimental "vaccines." Imagine how many people you could hurt out of the 2+ billion you just injected, just because you're not liable for damages. They could be injecting whatever, because they're not liable for it.

More Vaccinated People Are Dying of COVID in England Than Unvaccinated – Here’s Why

Even with high vaccination rates, older adults remain at higher risk of death from COVID. This doesn’t mean vaccines don’t work—it confirms they’re protecting most, just not all. More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health En

scitechdaily.com

Covid Surges In 4 Of 5 Most Vaccinated Countries—Here’s Why The U.S. Should Worry

Countries with much higher vaccination rates than the U.S. are experiencing some of the worst coronavirus spikes.

www.forbes.com

From your own article that you posted. It looks like getting vaccinated might be a good thing.