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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am pretty sure they were covered by Medicare part B back then.

How many scripts did they bill for that were never shipped or never written by a doctor?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

A lot of the death tolls were fake, exaggerated, to cause more fear to the weak minded. More than Republicans said that.

I’m a life long chronically ill person; a lot of doctors are idiots and don’t know what they’re doing. A lot of these “doctors” are lying for an agenda. Medical tyranny. Same old “give up your rights out of fear of death.” A lot of people say that the church makes people fear death to control them. Well.......

No proof, just more conspiracy theory BS.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Why do you keep saying that? Why do you keep calling Trump "my cult leader"? Why do you keep assuming that when Trump spoke, I believed him? Or anyone believed him for that matter.

You do realize you are in a group of people who keep saying the same things about Trump over and over don't you? Wouldn't that put you in some kind of weird anti-Trump hate cult? You are in the same group that keeps blaming Trump for everything, still. Kind of.. no, exactly like Pelosi, Biden, AOC and so on. Are you telling me there is nothing else going on in the world you could focus your views on more than a past President that when he is brought up it is by your cult 99% of the time?

The CDC is the Centers for Disease Control, not the Census Bureau. If they gave numbers on deaths from COVID when it started it was numbers that were reported to them. Nobody said they didn't believe the CDC. We questioned Hospitals reporting COVID numbers while they were being given government money to deal with COVID. The more COVID reported, the more money given. Just because they are Hospitals doesn't mean they are ethical. They are run by humans and humans are greedy, selfish beings.

More conspiracy BS. I talked to my nurse friend and he said that this is the way the deaths have always been reported. He didn't agree with it either but the rules for reporting COD have been that way for a long time. The Dr.'s were just following protocol. They weren't lying on purpose just to get more money.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

A lot of people on here won't believe this!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A lot of people on here won't believe this!

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Propaganda B.S. It says "more than 99% of COVID-19 deaths in the United States have been people who are unvaccinated against the virus".

1st off, more than 99% is 100%. How can part of a person die from COVID-19 so that right there is not true.
2nd, It said the people who died are unvaccinated it should be "were" unvaccinated, past tense. I am not going to trust your sited source as fact when they can't even get these two simple things correct. There, due diligence.

If they got these things wrong and didn't correct them, what else are the lax on? The facts themselves? Are they even fact checking. There, critical thinking too.

I commented on two things from your post. There, math skills.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How many scripts did they bill for that were never shipped or never written by a doctor?

Who knows. Why or how would I even know that. I was ethical at that job. I won many awards there. Some people are ethical. I am now but up until I was 19 I was a thief. I stole anything I thought I could get money for and sometimes just for the thrill of it.

If you have a point, just make it.

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

Shocker, an obese human in his 70’s died?? No way Booby

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Weird dream last night. I was driving around with my brother and Dad in a self driving car. We pulled up next to another car with their windows down and I ask if they got all the COVID out of their car. They said almost, they would get the rest out after they got some Sonny's BBQ. I have some weird dreams since I had COVID and since my brother died.

Has anyone on here had weird side effects after recovering from COVID?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Who knows. Why or how would I even know that. I was ethical at that job. I won many awards there. Some people are ethical. I am now but up until I was 19 I was a thief. I stole anything I thought I could get money for and sometimes just for the thrill of it.

If you have a point, just make it.

You worked there, but do not know if they committed fraud by charging and not delivering, or charging for prescriptions a doc never wrote, yet you freely post here that hospitals are falsifying COVID diagnoses in order to get "COVID bonus" funds from the government.

You don't know if fraud happened at a place you were employed and "won many awards" from, but you know widespread fraud happened at hospitals across the US after you heard it on Facebook or Faux news or from some other person who thinks it's true because it supports their narrative.

Do you not see the flaw in your logic there?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You worked there, but do not know if they committed fraud by charging and not delivering, or charging for prescriptions a doc never wrote, yet you freely post here that hospitals are falsifying COVID diagnoses in order to get "COVID bonus" funds from the government.

You don't know if fraud happened at a place you were employed and "won many awards" from, but you know widespread fraud happened at hospitals across the US after you heard it on Facebook or Faux news or from some other person who thinks it's true because it supports their narrative.

Do you not see the flaw in your logic there?

Just because you don't watch the news doesn't mean something didn't happen. Doctors and Nurses were stating that COVID cases were being inflated. I am not the only person who saw this on the news. When you have Hospital employees stating that COVID cases were being inflated and common sense tells you that humans are greedy and where there is opportunity for fraud, it can and does happen. It's not something I am making up just to debate you.

I worked there over a decade ago. I was not looking for fraud so to ask me to comment on possible fraud at that one business is asinine when the point of conversation was Hospital fraud over COVID funding, not a mail order pharmacy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Propaganda B.S. It says "more than 99% of COVID-19 deaths in the United States have been people who are unvaccinated against the virus".

1st off, more than 99% is 100%. How can part of a person die from COVID-19 so that right there is not true.
2nd, It said the people who died are unvaccinated it should be "were" unvaccinated, past tense. I am not going to trust your sited source as fact when they can't even get these two simple things correct. There, due diligence.

If they got these things wrong and didn't correct them, what else are the lax on? The facts themselves? Are they even fact checking. There, critical thinking too.

I commented on two things from your post. There, math skills.

I'm the due diligence and critical thinking proponent, not Bobby (though he may be too, but doesn't say it?).

RECENT deaths is important for context.
And your attempt at discrediting the info because of a perceived grammatical error is a fail. It is not grammatically incorrect to use "was" or "is" when referring to certain facts about the dead. Especially when those facts will remain unchanged.
"Les Paul IS the pioneer of the solid body electric guitar". Les has been dead since 2009, but he will forever be the pioneer and so we always say "IS". That will never change.
A person who is dead and never got a vaccination can definitely be described as "IS" unvaccinated, such as in the sentence you misquoted. They are dead and their vaccination status will remain unchanged. You CAN also say "never were" or "were never" or "were not", or "was not" if describing a singularity.

Now, we'll talk to your math skills, which are still really lacking:
Yes, 99% of 100 people can only be 99 people. No, you cannot count a third of a person as dead.
HOWEVER, 99% of only 200 people is 198 people. That leaves 2 people.
Now if you say 99.5% of 200 people have died, you are saying 199 have died. That leaves 1 very whole person alive.
99.5% is certainly more than 99%, yet we are still counting whole humans.

On August 31st alone, there were 1,438 COVID-related deaths. If 1,429 of those deaths involved unvaccinated people, it would be 99.37413%, which I think we can both agree is greater than 99%.
1,429 is a whole number, and is more than 99% of the total 1,438. CORRECT?

Percentages are 4th grade math. By 5th or 6th, you should have known what I illustrated above.

Due diligence and critical thinking are good skills and need to be practiced by far more people than currently do.
But you can't build the argument on a false premise. You built your argument here on TWO false premises.

Don't give up.
The more you try the better you might become. You'll certainly learn things along the way.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I'm the due diligence and critical thinking proponent, not Bobby (though he may be too, but doesn't say it?).

RECENT deaths is important for context.
And your attempt at discrediting the info because of a perceived grammatical error is a fail. It is not grammatically incorrect to use "was" or "is" when referring to certain facts about the dead. Especially when those facts will remain unchanged.
"Les Paul IS the pioneer of the solid body electric guitar". Les has been dead since 2009, but he will forever be the pioneer and so we always say "IS". That will never change.
A person who is dead and never got a vaccination can definitely be described as "IS" unvaccinated, such as in the sentence you misquoted. They are dead and their vaccination status will remain unchanged. You CAN also say "never were" or "were never" or "were not", or "was not" if describing a singularity.

Now, we'll talk to your math skills, which are still really lacking:
Yes, 99% of 100 people can only be 99 people. No, you cannot count a third of a person as dead.
HOWEVER, 99% of only 200 people is 198 people. That leaves 2 people.
Now if you say 99.5% of 200 people have died, you are saying 199 have died. That leaves 1 very whole person alive.
99.5% is certainly more than 99%, yet we are still counting whole humans.

On August 31st alone, there were 1,438 COVID-related deaths. If 1,429 of those deaths involved unvaccinated people, it would be 99.37413%, which I think we can both agree is greater than 99%.
1,429 is a whole number, and is more than 99% of the total 1,438. CORRECT?

Percentages are 4th grade math. By 5th or 6th, you should have known what I illustrated above.

Due diligence and critical thinking are good skills and need to be practiced by far more people than currently do.
But you can't build the argument on a false premise. You built your argument here on TWO false premises.

Don't give up.
The more you try the better you might become. You'll certainly learn things along the way.

Why do you keep talking to me?

Les Paul is the recognized father of the electric guitar. He did not invent it and the idea for his famous guitar shape came from someone else. Common knowledge. You need due diligence. Yes, I play guitar.

They weren't talking about 99 people they said 99% as in of the whole of the people who died. Therefore the math changes.

Percentages of a person can only be a whole percent. So they are and you are using the percentages incorrectly. They actually shouldn't use percentages at all and should instead use the actual numbers. That would be correct and far more accurate.

3/4 of a person died from COVID... that's 75%. So what... 25% is still alive or what, unaccounted for?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Why do you keep talking to me?

Les Paul is the recognized father of the electric guitar. He did not invent it and the idea for his famous guitar shape came from someone else. Common knowledge. You need due diligence. Yes, I play guitar.

They weren't talking about 99 people they said 99% as in of the whole of the people who died. Therefore the math changes.

Percentages of a person can only be a whole percent. So they are and you are using the percentages incorrectly. They actually shouldn't use percentages at all and should instead use the actual numbers. That would be correct and far more accurate.

3/4 of a person died from COVID... that's 75%. So what... 25% is still alive or what, unaccounted for?

I said Les Paul pioneered the solid body electric guitar. I did not say he invented the electric guitar, even though some people incorrectly claim he did. Here's a quote of my words from the post: "Les Paul IS the pioneer of the solid body electric guitar". I knew the man and his son. I spent time in his house. I know of what I speak. Read more carefully before you argue.

You are trying to backtrack on your claim that you cannot have more than 99% but less than 100% of a group of people dying with specific circumstances. Percentages are used when dealing with large numbers because it is easier for people to understand. My example of 1,429 out of 1,438 is valid once again. Those numbers are accurate, but do not necessarily convey the data in a useful way. Kind of like when someone asks the time, you don't say "nine twenty nine and seventeen seconds, anti-meridian", you say "nine thirty".
"More than 99%" conveys the meaning much easier than "173, 478 out of 174,295".

You tried to say the information was incorrect because you cannot have a "partial person". You either have to have 99% or 100% of a group of people per your statement: "more than 99% is 100%. How can part of a person die from COVID-19 so that right there is not true."
The fact is that your supposition and statement is just not true. It is certainly possible to have more than 99% and less than 100% of a large group of people without making "partial people". I proved it mathematically for you. You cannot deny that in any way.
Why are you even trying?

The info did not claim that more than 99% of a PERSON died, it claimed more than 99% of recent DEATHS. PLURAL. And there were well over 200 deaths recently, so more than 99% but less than 100% is an absolute possibility.
Are you new?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I said Les Paul pioneered the solid body electric guitar. I did not say he invented the electric guitar, even though some people incorrectly claim he did. Here's a quote of my words from the post: "Les Paul IS the pioneer of the solid body electric guitar". I knew the man and his son. I spent time in his house. I know of what I speak. Read more carefully before you argue.

You are trying to backtrack on your claim that you cannot have more than 99% but less than 100% of a group of people dying with specific circumstances. Percentages are used when dealing with large numbers because it is easier for people to understand. My example of 1,429 out of 1,438 is valid once again. Those numbers are accurate, but do not necessarily convey the data in a useful way. Kind of like when someone asks the time, you don't say "nine twenty nine and seventeen seconds, anti-meridian", you say "nine thirty".
"More than 99%" conveys the meaning much easier than "173, 478 out of 174,295".

You tried to say the information was incorrect because you cannot have a "partial person". You either have to have 99% or 100% of a group of people per your statement: "more than 99% is 100%. How can part of a person die from COVID-19 so that right there is not true."
The fact is that your supposition and statement is just not true. It is certainly possible to have more than 99% and less than 100% of a large group of people without making "partial people". I proved it mathematically for you. You cannot deny that in any way.
Why are you even trying?

The info did not claim that more than 99% of a PERSON died, it claimed more than 99% of recent DEATHS. PLURAL. And there were well over 200 deaths recently, so more than 99% but less than 100% is an absolute possibility.
Are you new?

Les Paul was a thief. He didn't pioneer shit. Taking someone else's idea and claiming you came up with it doesn't fly. Just because you claim to have known him doesn't make you an expert on his character.

I shook Michael Angelo Batio's hand. Doesn't mean I can play guitar like him. I shook Ace Frehley's. Doesn't mean I can play Shock Me note for note. I shook Hulk Hogan's hand. Doesn't mean I know why he cheated on his wife.

Using percentages is easier... for people who can't handle large numbers. It's used to dumb down math so the masses can understand easier. Probably why you are defending it so much.

I don't care how many people there are, a whole person is a whole person. Use the percentages if you don't want to be accurate. Quote the whole number if you want to state the actual count. Percentages are better for things that can be divided less than evenly. Like a pie. Why would you need wiggle room to account for dead people unless you were manipulating numbers? Oh, could it be for more money? Maybe.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Les Paul was a thief. He didn't pioneer shit. Taking someone else's idea and claiming you came up with it doesn't fly. Just because you claim to have known him doesn't make you an expert on his character.

I shook Michael Angelo Batio's hand. Doesn't mean I can play guitar like him. I shook Ace Frehley's. Doesn't mean I can play Shock Me note for note. I shook Hulk Hogan's hand. Doesn't mean I know why he cheated on his wife.

Using percentages is easier... for people who can't handle large numbers. It's used to dumb down math so the masses can understand easier. Probably why you are defending it so much.

I don't care how many people there are, a whole person is a whole person. Use the percentages if you don't want to be accurate. Quote the whole number if you want to state the actual count. Percentages are better for things that can be divided less than evenly. Like a pie. Why would you need wiggle room to account for dead people unless you were manipulating numbers? Oh, could it be for more money? Maybe.

Less Paul pioneered the SOLID BODY electric guitar. He did not steal anything. it was his idea. Don't be confused by the fact that electric pickups existed and were used on acoustic guitars. Les was the one who did it with a solid-body and made it what it ultimately became. He also pioneered (not "invented") the use of multitrack recording for overdubbing even though Ampex created the multitrack technology, but actually invented the "overdubbing" by adding a playback head before the recording head so he could play along with a previous recording, and both sounds would then be the new recording. he also is credted with inventing the "flange effect".
What in your mind (as a self-admitted thief) did Les Paulk "steal"?

As for your backpedal on percentages: In a similar way that you cannot play like Satriani just because you saw G3, your lack of understanding for percentages does not invalidate that they are mathematical fact.

A whole person is a whole person, for sure. So, please explain how you cannot say that 54.3% of the population in a city of 100,000 is male when there are 54,300 males in that city.

Guess what? the .3% does not mean that ONE person is 1/3 male. It means an additional 300 of those 100,000 people are male beyond the flat 54%. SIMPLE math. 5th grade stuff. Really.

And don't try to state that using rounded figures and approximations is a bad thing. It's been common practice for far longer than either of us has been alive and works just fine to convey meaning when exact figures are not needed, not for "dumbing down the masses" (an ironic phrase when you though it was impossible to have more than 99% but less than 100% of a group of humans).

For another example: "the company lost 95% of its assets" tells you plenty, unless you were expecting a list of each asset they lost and the breakdown value of those assets (after depreciation, of course). If that's how you think data should be shared in the news or elsewhere, then you may want to stop with sharing your feelings as if they are facts. No more "hospitals are lying about COVID deaths". Start providing facts and examples. name the hospital. name the patient. Show a death certificate.
Don't just regurgitate some crap you heard on a right-wing podcast that was not even backed up by THAT talking head. Walk the walk. Give what you expect to receive.

You know this (I hope) but are trying and failing to backpedal out of your stated confusion that whole percentages MUST be used when describing a group that is comprised of human beings.
Your assumption was incorrect. It was proved to you. Give up that battle. You lost it.