Still decent subs man. Not Block pounders but good quality subs and fill the void nicely. Enclosure is everything and tuning for sure. Ive had some cheap azzed Lanzar Max Pro 10s that banged therytre azzez off in decently tuned enclosures on approx 400 wattsYeah those are the ones, when I was making the box. I don't know what I was thinking